Hybrids
Hybrids
I am so sick of hearing everything about Hybrids.
Hybrid cars are just a band-aid delaying the inevitable.....
Hybrid cars are not the solution. What are we going to do with all the defunct battery cells from those cars in the coming years? What about the fact that even a car that gets 55 miles per gallon is still burping carbon into our atmosphere?
Hydrogen-powered vehicles are the most viable solution. The government shouldn't be wasting its time arguing over miles per gallon increases and instead should be organizing to (smartly) pump money into American car companies like GM for encouraging the advancement of this technology, research universities studying the technology, as well as this country's infrastructure to get hydrogen power off the ground.
The technology is developing. It takes money to speed the process along.
A self-sufficient economy can form around hydrogen power just like gasoline (i.e., hydrogen power stations in lieu of today's gas stations).
Here is an interesting video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNdH9pVdsE
Hybrid cars are just a band-aid delaying the inevitable.....
Hybrid cars are not the solution. What are we going to do with all the defunct battery cells from those cars in the coming years? What about the fact that even a car that gets 55 miles per gallon is still burping carbon into our atmosphere?
Hydrogen-powered vehicles are the most viable solution. The government shouldn't be wasting its time arguing over miles per gallon increases and instead should be organizing to (smartly) pump money into American car companies like GM for encouraging the advancement of this technology, research universities studying the technology, as well as this country's infrastructure to get hydrogen power off the ground.
The technology is developing. It takes money to speed the process along.
A self-sufficient economy can form around hydrogen power just like gasoline (i.e., hydrogen power stations in lieu of today's gas stations).
Here is an interesting video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNdH9pVdsE
Last edited by Daveg99; Dec 3, 2007 at 01:56 PM.
I think you've got the right idea, but also that you're about 3 or 4 years behind the curve.
Bush and congress approved a large amount of funding for hydrogen research during his first term. I think it was in the range of 1.5 billion bucks. I've found links to DOE sites with hydrogen information since then, and viable ways to produce it at low costs.
One of the big hurdles in any new fuel is retrofitting older cars. Short of fuel cells, which won't be cheap any time soon, buring hydrogen is viable. But coming up with an inexpensive way to implement it isn't quite as easy. We'll need fuel storage under pressure, and that's not quite as easy as it seems.
Bush and congress approved a large amount of funding for hydrogen research during his first term. I think it was in the range of 1.5 billion bucks. I've found links to DOE sites with hydrogen information since then, and viable ways to produce it at low costs.
One of the big hurdles in any new fuel is retrofitting older cars. Short of fuel cells, which won't be cheap any time soon, buring hydrogen is viable. But coming up with an inexpensive way to implement it isn't quite as easy. We'll need fuel storage under pressure, and that's not quite as easy as it seems.
I don't see where older cars should be the worry. Get the hydrogen out there and available and get the auto manufacturers to start offering new models. Nothing says we can't run both in the mean time and if we get new cars out there running hydrogen it'll reduce our dependancy and use of the fossile fuels.
How is it cost wise and mileage wise. It'd be nice if they could make it cheap and efficient and with lots of torque and get the Truckers to adopt it...especially with the rising cost of Diesel.
How is it cost wise and mileage wise. It'd be nice if they could make it cheap and efficient and with lots of torque and get the Truckers to adopt it...especially with the rising cost of Diesel.
Originally Posted by gixxerjasen
I don't see where older cars should be the worry. Get the hydrogen out there and available and get the auto manufacturers to start offering new models. Nothing says we can't run both in the mean time and if we get new cars out there running hydrogen it'll reduce our dependancy and use of the fossile fuels.
How is it cost wise and mileage wise. It'd be nice if they could make it cheap and efficient and with lots of torque and get the Truckers to adopt it...especially with the rising cost of Diesel.
How is it cost wise and mileage wise. It'd be nice if they could make it cheap and efficient and with lots of torque and get the Truckers to adopt it...especially with the rising cost of Diesel.
You have to worry about retrofitting old cars, otherwise nobody wants to sell hydrogen to the current model year cars only. They might, but probably at an extremely high cost. Supply and demand.
Right now cost is high, again supply and demand. By weight hydrogen has high energy content, but by volume energy content is low. This is a problem with most fuels in gas form.
There was a thread recently on another forum about propane. With current gas costs, propane is a good deal for a vehicle.
A link about the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative, with some funding data and other good stuff.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogen...nitiative.html


