So you think Islam is a peaceful religion?
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the bottom line is........
The Muslim communities have allowed themselves to be controlled by the extremists.
The non-violent Muslims have lost control and cannot speak out unless they have the protection of living in the US or some other far away country.
They have allowed this to happen for whatever reason and now it is our problem because the extremist do believe in killing all infidels. And they are spreading rapidly.
Christians also believe they are the correct religion and want to spread their beliefs to the whole world. But they don't want to kill everyone that doesn't share their beliefs. Maybe in the past Christians did. But we are talking 2007 here not 1400.
All I know is that every time I go to wal-mart I pick up another box of shells for my rifle.
And if/when they get to me I will be putting up one hell of a fight!!!!!
PSS-MAG for your sake I hope you are doing the same.
The Muslim communities have allowed themselves to be controlled by the extremists.
The non-violent Muslims have lost control and cannot speak out unless they have the protection of living in the US or some other far away country.
They have allowed this to happen for whatever reason and now it is our problem because the extremist do believe in killing all infidels. And they are spreading rapidly.
Christians also believe they are the correct religion and want to spread their beliefs to the whole world. But they don't want to kill everyone that doesn't share their beliefs. Maybe in the past Christians did. But we are talking 2007 here not 1400.
All I know is that every time I go to wal-mart I pick up another box of shells for my rifle.
And if/when they get to me I will be putting up one hell of a fight!!!!!
PSS-MAG for your sake I hope you are doing the same.
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Originally Posted by efuehrin
the bottom line is........
The Muslim communities have allowed themselves to be controlled by the extremists.
The non-violent Muslims have lost control and cannot speak out unless they have the protection of living in the US or some other far away country.
They have allowed this to happen for whatever reason and now it is our problem because the extremist do believe in killing all infidels. And they are spreading rapidly.
Christians also believe they are the correct religion and want to spread their beliefs to the whole world. But they don't want to kill everyone that doesn't share their beliefs. Maybe in the past Christians did. But we are talking 2007 here not 1400.
All I know is that every time I go to wal-mart I pick up another box of shells for my rifle.
And if/when they get to me I will be putting up one hell of a fight!!!!!
PSS-MAG for your sake I hope you are doing the same.
unless you decide to join them by then.
The Muslim communities have allowed themselves to be controlled by the extremists.
The non-violent Muslims have lost control and cannot speak out unless they have the protection of living in the US or some other far away country.
They have allowed this to happen for whatever reason and now it is our problem because the extremist do believe in killing all infidels. And they are spreading rapidly.
Christians also believe they are the correct religion and want to spread their beliefs to the whole world. But they don't want to kill everyone that doesn't share their beliefs. Maybe in the past Christians did. But we are talking 2007 here not 1400.
All I know is that every time I go to wal-mart I pick up another box of shells for my rifle.
And if/when they get to me I will be putting up one hell of a fight!!!!!
PSS-MAG for your sake I hope you are doing the same.
unless you decide to join them by then.
The reason they let it happen there is many and you'll have to dig back centuries of their history to get to the root and the events that led them to where they are today. The end result is it got out of hand before they realized it and by then they couldn't do anything.
How do you expect them to fight someone willing to strap on bomb?
We've spent how many years? How many billions of dollars? How much man power? and it's not just us so how many countries are helping fight and we are still barely making head way....... Thats using tanks, planes, bombs technology and high coordination and strategies.
If you gathered ip all the Christians, gave them each a stick and told them to go stop the extremist, the Christians would be eliminated. yet you expect another religion to do it?
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
If you gathered ip all the Christians, gave them each a stick and told them to go stop the extremist, the Christians would be eliminated. yet you expect another religion to do it?
And we have to stop them just like we had to stop Hitler. If we don't the whole world is doomed. And if anyone thinks that is an exaggeration they are nieve.
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Originally Posted by efuehrin
No, that's the problem. They expect us to do it.
And we have to stop them just like we had to stop Hitler. If we don't the whole world is doomed. And if anyone thinks that is an exaggeration they are nieve.
And we have to stop them just like we had to stop Hitler. If we don't the whole world is doomed. And if anyone thinks that is an exaggeration they are nieve.
Most of the Muslim world lives in peace. Granted their laws are much different than ours are, but the rest of the Christian world has differing laws as well.
By sheer numbers alone, even if a small percentage of the Muslims in Iraq actually opposed the troops by force, we would have a whole lot of dead troops in Iraq. The truth of the matter is that even in a country with so much conflict, a very small percentage of people are radical in their thinking.
There are US cities that compare to Baghdad in levels of violence and death.
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Originally Posted by signmaster
By sheer numbers alone, even if a small percentage of the Muslims in Iraq actually opposed the troops by force, we would have a whole lot of dead troops in Iraq. The truth of the matter is that even in a country with so much conflict, a very small percentage of people are radical in their thinking.
But remember: If this same small percentage of Christans would turn as radical as some Muslims, earth as we know it would cease to exist. Because of the nuclear weapons we have.
If they would obtain these nuclear weapons they would not hesitate.
Luckily we police ourselves better than they do.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
It'd be completely ignorant to suggest that we get involved in the Mid East for altruistic reasons.
Our most significant interest in the Mid East is oil. Any action we take there is informed by the interest of oil.
Our most significant interest in the Mid East is oil. Any action we take there is informed by the interest of oil.
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you guy's are missing the point of this thread. Is Islam a peaceful religion.
Today is sure seems that it is not.
Let's image things are swapped. The US is a country ruled by the Islam leaders of today.
Would a group of Christians trying to spread their religion be allowed to live in peace in this Islamic "United States"?
Of course not. They would be beheaded while the Islam radicals in the country celebrated in the streets during the executuions.
And any other Christian countries that got out of line would be nuked off the map.
Today is sure seems that it is not.
Let's image things are swapped. The US is a country ruled by the Islam leaders of today.
Would a group of Christians trying to spread their religion be allowed to live in peace in this Islamic "United States"?
Of course not. They would be beheaded while the Islam radicals in the country celebrated in the streets during the executuions.
And any other Christian countries that got out of line would be nuked off the map.
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Muslims have been a problem long before the invention of the internal combustion engine.
to answer the original question...YES
It is intended to be a peaceful religion as are most religions. But some people are just whacked out and are way to extreme. And those people are morons!
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Originally Posted by efuehrin
you guy's are missing the point of this thread. Is Islam a peaceful religion.
Today is sure seems that it is not.
Let's image things are swapped. The US is a country ruled by the Islam leaders of today.
Would a group of Christians trying to spread their religion be allowed to live in peace in this Islamic "United States"?
Of course not. They would be beheaded while the Islam radicals in the country celebrated in the streets during the executuions.
And any other Christian countries that got out of line would be nuked off the map.
Today is sure seems that it is not.
Let's image things are swapped. The US is a country ruled by the Islam leaders of today.
Would a group of Christians trying to spread their religion be allowed to live in peace in this Islamic "United States"?
Of course not. They would be beheaded while the Islam radicals in the country celebrated in the streets during the executuions.
And any other Christian countries that got out of line would be nuked off the map.
FYI, people openly practice Christian religions in most of the world, including Iraq.
As far as the previous statement about nukes, that's why they are controlled. I'm sure there are nutbag radicals of most religions that would like to obtain the ability to use one. We don't elect the brightest people at times, but we weed out the worst of the bottom feeders usually.
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Originally Posted by signmaster
Would groups of Muslims attempt to spread paranoia by posting internet threads with incorrect information about the Christian religion?
Paranoia!!!!! - They are flying planes into our civilian buildings,,,,wanting to behead a teacher for calling a teddy bear mouhamad,,,,,wanting to kill cartoonist for making drawings/jokes about their prophet,,,,,dragging the corpses of our soldiers thru their streets for open display.
Your right - now is not yet the time for paranoia. But if these extremist go unchecked, paranoia will be at your back door eventually.
Or you will become a devout Muslim.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
"Back in the day" the interest conflict was trade. There are always underlying self interests for doing things.
Also, just as "Muslims have always been a problem" one could just as easily say that Christians/Westerners have always been a problem.
Also, just as "Muslims have always been a problem" one could just as easily say that Christians/Westerners have always been a problem.
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Originally Posted by jimmyb04stx
That Sir is just the mentality that is ruining this great Nation, which has saved more Countries and gave more people around the world freedom!! Many Generations have given their blood and their lives for people all around this world, and believe me those people did not see it as a problem!! Oh and by the way they were Americans, not (Christians/Westerners).
I thought our borders where pretty well defined by oceans east and west, Canada to our north and the rio grand to our south? I didn't realize that we took over the entire western hemisphere and other parts of the world where ever Christians may be.
We are much bigger than I thought!
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Originally Posted by wfin2004
I would seriously doubt that.
Paranoia won't come to my back door at all. I can understand the difference between a terrorist and a Muslim.