So you think Islam is a peaceful religion?
Originally Posted by Stealth
Modern Christians have accepted responsibility for their past mistakes while Muslims continue to screw up without remorse.
The key words in the post was "Past mistakes"
It make no mention or implication of their current mistakes.....
Sorry, that was my poor reading comprehension.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Dec 1, 2007 at 01:42 PM.
Anyone comparing religions who protest to verbally denounce people for what they consider short comings to religions that encourage strapping on a bomb to kill as many as possible are idiots. It's completely different to harrass, protest, and even threaten; not that it's right. I'd much rather be brow beaten or bible thumped than be blown up by a suicide bomber! That's just me though.
Originally Posted by s2krn
Anyone comparing religions who protest to verbally denounce people for what they consider short comings to religions that encourage strapping on a bomb to kill as many as possible are idiots. It's completely different to harrass, protest, and even threaten; not that it's right. I'd much rather be brow beaten or bible thumped than be blown up by a suicide bomber! That's just me though.
It is my understanding that the extreme Islams are a very small group and most Islams don't agree with their thoughts or tactics
With all the suicide bombers all over the world; esp in the Middle East, how can anyone say radical islamists are a small group. There's atleast a few bombings a week on the news. Just like anything else; the news will not report all of the bombings. Islam is inherently not a peaceful religion. When a religion openly condones the destruction of another group of people it is not a peaceful religion. Islamists will live in peace... after the destruction of the people they are destined to destroy.
Your going to hear about the smaller group more because they are doing something to get attention.
For every bomber there is probably 100K+ that were at work that day and not involved in any way shape or form. Did you hear about those 100K others? No because they weren't doing anything. You heard about the one or two bombers and the denomination that sent them.
For every bomber there is probably 100K+ that were at work that day and not involved in any way shape or form. Did you hear about those 100K others? No because they weren't doing anything. You heard about the one or two bombers and the denomination that sent them.
There are 100's of thousand of bible based cults here in the US too.
You don't hear about all of them, except for the extremist Christian cults when they do something to get attention and make teh news, and teh media tends to ignore alot of that because it does represent the US and Christians even though the US nor Christians were not involved at all.
They call them selfs Christians and some do employ extreme actions including terroristic acts for their beliefs both here and abroad based on their beliefs of the bible. They don't really represent the Christian faith either. It's the same thing for Islamic, the terrorist are an extremist cult off the Koran.
You don't hear about all of them, except for the extremist Christian cults when they do something to get attention and make teh news, and teh media tends to ignore alot of that because it does represent the US and Christians even though the US nor Christians were not involved at all.
They call them selfs Christians and some do employ extreme actions including terroristic acts for their beliefs both here and abroad based on their beliefs of the bible. They don't really represent the Christian faith either. It's the same thing for Islamic, the terrorist are an extremist cult off the Koran.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Dec 1, 2007 at 02:43 PM.
You continue to compare wacko Christian groups to a religion that encourages followers to KILL and completely abolish another group of humans. A religion that preaches an afterlife with how ever many virgins if you kill yourself and others in the pursuit of the religion is completely different than Kool Aid drinking cults. Name a Christian cult openly condoning killing another group of people aside from some 50 member group. We're talking about a religion with multi millions of followers. No comparison at all.
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
That's extreme Islamist that strap on bombs though, thats like saying any religion who follows the Phelps (Christian group) are idiots. Phelps don't represent Christians anymore than extreme Islams represent Islam.
It is my understanding that the extreme Islams are a very small group and most Islams don't agree with their thoughts or tactics
It is my understanding that the extreme Islams are a very small group and most Islams don't agree with their thoughts or tactics
Do you really think phelps could get thousands of protesters for anything? Maybe only if his family gets bigger since they are about the only followers he has...60 of his 71 followers are related to him.
And let's be clear, even if you consider phelps a fringe christian group, they aren't blowing up things, just making stupid talk. There is a much larger number of violent islamic extremists than there are violent christian extremists. Can you imagine if Christians had bloodlust for every instance of "insulting the faith of [Christians in US]"? Wouldn't be pretty.
You continue to group Islam extremist cult into Islamic....
Thats my point.
Not that one is any worse than the other. A cult is a cult and not connected with the group it is a sub cult of.
To say Islam is stupid because they strap bombs to themselves, is the exact same comparison as as saying that Christians are stupid because they drink poison kool aid.
Both are an uneducated observation to say the least.
Thats my point.
Not that one is any worse than the other. A cult is a cult and not connected with the group it is a sub cult of.
To say Islam is stupid because they strap bombs to themselves, is the exact same comparison as as saying that Christians are stupid because they drink poison kool aid.
Both are an uneducated observation to say the least.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Dec 1, 2007 at 02:56 PM.
Originally Posted by crowe10
Do you really think phelps could get thousands of protesters for anything? Maybe only if his family gets bigger since they are about the only followers he has...60 of his 71 followers are related to him.
And let's be clear, even if you consider phelps a fringe christian group, they aren't blowing up things, just making stupid talk. There is a much larger number of violent islamic extremists than there are violent christian extremists. Can you imagine if Christians had bloodlust for every instance of "insulting the faith of [Christians in US]"? Wouldn't be pretty.
And let's be clear, even if you consider phelps a fringe christian group, they aren't blowing up things, just making stupid talk. There is a much larger number of violent islamic extremists than there are violent christian extremists. Can you imagine if Christians had bloodlust for every instance of "insulting the faith of [Christians in US]"? Wouldn't be pretty.
See the above post.
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Islam sharia law justifies their actions, be it moderate muslim's so called tolerance of others to muslim extremist's hatred for others. They all say kill the infidels. It's in their religion.
Islam as a religion; not a cult or extremist side, calls for the destruction of an entire group of people. If you die in an attempt to fulfill this destiny then you get 72 virgins in the after life. That is not the extremist belief; that is Islam as a religion. That is good enough for me to answer the question... Is Islam a peaceful religion?
Originally Posted by s2krn
Islam as a religion; not a cult or extremist side, calls for the destruction of an entire group of people. If you die in an attempt to fulfill this destiny then you get 72 virgins in the after life. That is not the extremist belief; that is Islam as a religion. That is good enough for me to answer the question... Is Islam a peaceful religion?
I've never heard of that part.
Except from the extremist.
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Thats not my point at all.
See the above post.
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See the above post.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
Objectives of warfare
According to verses [Qur'an 2:190], the Qur'an implies two objectives:[36]
Uproot fitnah (فتنة) or persecution
Establish supremacy of Islam in the world



