Been a little busy at work, messed up my eye, and sometimes these forums are dead, dead, dead....so, I spend alot time over on a MMA forum or Mythos.com

Gotta do something other than answer calls from rude people who want everything done for them. Americans have become lazy and dependant on others....this is BAD. Real bad.

Anyway, I try to check in from time to time.

 

This thread is great.

It's a perfect example of what's wrong with today's society.

1. The police told the moron to stop.
2. The moron kept coming.
3. The police shot a moron with a brush.

Question.

If an officer or officers are pointing a weapon at someones nasty grape and they tell him/her to stop, and said moron keep coming, is that a threat? As for as I'm concerned, he was asking to be shot.

People who believe in that "grey area" and cant see black and white in a situation are a problem in todays society.

 

I'm so glad I don't 'get it'.
To automatically 'get it' everytime takes some groupthink.
I would prefer to let each incident stand on it's own merit.

Last year, an unarmed bridegroom was hit 19 times in the same city.
I think there were 80 rounds were fired, all by officers.

How are you not down when hit 10 times, much less 19.
At what point, does it transcend the justifiable to execution?
20 rounds? 80 rounds? 725 rounds?

I feel these incidents warrant review, not the rubberstamp 'good kill'.

The sense I get from the thread is blanket approval and in that I differ.
I am not a cop hater, I know which is the Home Team.

The simple answer that has been put out here is to just do what you're told and you'll be fine. Well,,
I was downtown sitting at a redlight my window was down and I could hear clearly. Across from me was a blue car with two occupants. Behind them a marked police car. A unmarked car came up quickly behind them and the blue car passenger bolted from the car, the two cops in the unmarked chased on foot. The two cops from the marked car approached the driver from each side.
The command and tone they used clearly indicated high adrenilin and that instant death was fraction of a second away.
The driverside cop said, "Don't move! Don't Move!"
at the same time the passengeside cop is saying, "Put your hands on the dash! Put your hands on the *********g dash!"

My light changed, I had traffic behind me so I left.
I don't know if the driver froze and would have got shot by the passengerside cop
or put his hands on the dash and would have got shot by the driverside cop.

Either way, he could have [done what he was told] and got 20 in the brain.
It seems to be standard proceedure that if one shoots they all shoot.
Game over.

Bottom line, I don't find joy in these events, nor am I inclined to give high-fives and definetly don't keep a scorecard with these as wins.
Here is some broadbrushing:

A Post Office worker, at the main sorting office, finds an unstamped, poorly hand-written envelope, addressed to God.
He opens it and discovers it is from an elderly lady, distressed because all her savings, $200, has been stolen. She will be cold & hungry this Easter without divine intervention.
He organizes the postal workers, who dig deep and come up with $180 to donate. They get it to her by special courier the same morning.
A week later, the same postal worker recognizes the same handwriting on another envelope. He opens it:
"Dear God,
Thank you for the $180 for Easter, which would have been so bleak otherwise.
P.S. It was $20 short but that was probably those thieving workers at the Post Office."

 

It was already a threating sernerio. I'm sure the guy saw the cops draw their weapon and the moron kept coming and didn't care. At this point of time the guy is capable of doing anything if he gets close enough.

One less idiot on the streets.

 

"Last year, an unarmed bridegroom was hit 19 times in the same city.
I think there were 80 rounds were fired, all by officers.

How are you not down when hit 10 times, much less 19.
At what point, does it transcend the justifiable to execution?
20 rounds? 80 rounds? 725 rounds?"

i think you're asking a good question. but to counter that, what in the heck was the poor young innocent guy doing to have police open fire on him?

we had an old saying....
"when in doubt, empty the magazine"

at what point do you risk your life to go check his pulse?
or do you stop shooting and sit there and let him bleed to death, making his death long and painful?

 

My bad, I got two incidents mixed up.

It was a West African immigrant who was shot 19 times by four police officers. It turned out he was reaching for his wallet to show ID.

The bridgroom case was a guy was doing the bachelor party thing with his buddies. They came out of a club that was under survelance by undercover officers. They were in their car trying to leave when confronted and struck an unmarked van. Only 50 rounds were fired into the car. Two wounded, bridegroom dead. Exit wounds indicated he was between 8 - 17 times.
These guys crime was drinking too much while clubbing and running into guys with guns and no uniforms or marked vehicles.

But hey, chalk up two more for the good guys.
These low lifes obviously got what they deserved, if you can't see that you are the problem.
High-Five, everybody.

 

dr. pinko..oops.. franko. you just don't get it. the officer felt threatend. end of story. what is the cop supposed to do? wait for the perp to turn around and shoot him before he can respond? actions speak louder than words. you make the motions, you pay the price. Your reasons against the death penalty are stupid. how assinine. especially in this day of dna testing. guilty is guilty. there are to many apeals. give them two apeals and pull the switch. get them of the tax payers back. the bleeding hearts are killing this country. to feminine.

 

There is no grey area with regards to this story. People just need to listen. Far too many people have problems with authority figures. Well, when an authority figure, ie police, tells you to do something, you do it or you pay the price. They're just doing their job. Stop questioning everything the police do in the heat of action as hindsight is always 20/20.

 

Thank you.