Could American citizens fend off an attack?
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From: Your moms house
Originally Posted by nuclearthreat54
I havent seen red dawn and I dont wanna look it up right now but you guys are describing exactly whats goin on in Iraq. Its just funny cause a lot of people on here are saying how the insurgents and the people that pop up out of no where and shoot our marines and kill them. Well, they are just defending their land.
Well, if we were invading Canada, and China was here to support them, then I could see your point.
Well, actually Mexico is invade the US...
Watch Red Dawn...it's a pretty good flick.
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Originally Posted by jamzwayne
Well, if we were invading Canada, and China was here to support them, then I could see your point.
Well, actually Mexico is invade the US...
Watch Red Dawn...it's a pretty good flick.
Well, actually Mexico is invade the US...
Watch Red Dawn...it's a pretty good flick.
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From: Your moms house
Originally Posted by F150Europe
What if the threat came from inside the USA, gangs are infiltrading the US Military I have heared.
That would be even better......thin the heard so to speak.
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From: Lost some where in the middle of the Ozark Mountains!
honestly dont know.....
at present I only have about 20 boxes of various shot gun shells, 2 bricks+ a few odd boxes of .22, 200 rnds of .270, 3/4 of a case of 7.62, 50-100 rnds of .45....
If an attack like red dawn happened...... (great movie by the way)... but if it did happen, That is not enough to hold ground, best I could hope for would be to retreat to safety with my family. God forbid it happen when I was not at home, and only had 20 rnds and a pistol with me.......
at present I only have about 20 boxes of various shot gun shells, 2 bricks+ a few odd boxes of .22, 200 rnds of .270, 3/4 of a case of 7.62, 50-100 rnds of .45....
If an attack like red dawn happened...... (great movie by the way)... but if it did happen, That is not enough to hold ground, best I could hope for would be to retreat to safety with my family. God forbid it happen when I was not at home, and only had 20 rnds and a pistol with me.......
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I think any Army large enough to mount a successful invasion on the US, lacks two key things for an invasion to succeed.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
I think any Army large enough to mount a successful invasion on the US, lacks two key things for an invasion to succeed.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
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The fact that we have a huge number of military bases and guard/reserve units would help to mess them up as well. I think you would find many of us creating our own local militia and shouldering up with our soldiers as well.
As for the Iraqis "defending" their land... which ones are defending, the terrorists that kill more Iraqis than Americans? Or the Iraqis that love our presence? Nuclearthreat54, you forget, we have something they do not FREEDOM!
And not that I have any ammo on hand, but every able bodied person in this country should have at least 1,000 rounds - pick the weapon you are best with and know how to use it.
As for the Iraqis "defending" their land... which ones are defending, the terrorists that kill more Iraqis than Americans? Or the Iraqis that love our presence? Nuclearthreat54, you forget, we have something they do not FREEDOM!
And not that I have any ammo on hand, but every able bodied person in this country should have at least 1,000 rounds - pick the weapon you are best with and know how to use it.
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From: Your moms house
Let us not forget we have many people like this in the US:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh8Vsbvn2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh8Vsbvn2A
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From: Buffalo NY
im gonna have to go with the 1/3 idea. A lot of people would fight, but with america's young teens looking up to role models like
and wanting to look like this
im gonna go with the fact that these kids wouldnt even know how to hold a weapon cuz theyre too busy trying to put on their makeup and make themselves throw up. Pussies!
and wanting to look like this
im gonna go with the fact that these kids wouldnt even know how to hold a weapon cuz theyre too busy trying to put on their makeup and make themselves throw up. Pussies!
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From: Seabrook,NH
Originally Posted by nuclearthreat54
I havent seen red dawn and I dont wanna look it up right now but you guys are describing exactly whats goin on in Iraq. Its just funny cause a lot of people on here are saying how the insurgents and the people that pop up out of no where and shoot our marines and kill them. Well, they are just defending their land.
We aren't taking any of their land. It is all in-fighting, civil war ***** over there. The insurgents are just trouble makers. It would be a totally different scenario if they were defending their land.
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From: HUSKER COUNTRY, USA
Originally Posted by Bighersh
I think any Army large enough to mount a successful invasion on the US, lacks two key things for an invasion to succeed.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
1.) The element of surprise
2.) Infrastructure
Only two countries have the men and ground equipment to possibly pull something off like that, Russia and China. But, what they both lack is a means of bringing a conventional fight to us. Surely, with sheer manpower, China could over run us, but, in order to stage, they'd have to invade Canada first, or Mexico. Or, Canada and Mexico- which would tip us off that we're next.
For us to know they were coming, and the direction from which they were coming- would be bad... For them.
The only other way is an airborne assault, or an amphiboius landing. If they planned to invade us with 50,000,000 troops, they lack the ships and planes to launch such an assault by invading us from the sea or air. Even if they did- we'd shoot their planes down, resulting in paratroopers raining to the ground like hail. Or, sink their ships, resulting in the largest mass drowning in known human history.
Do I think the average Americas could fend off an attack? Given the number of Americans, and the number of prior service military men and women in the US, and the ample supply of guns and ammo- I'd have to say yes. The prior service folks would know how to coordinate the militia, establish fighting positions, and defend a city, town, or area (against light infantry, maybe not so well against mechanized).
But, Bubba- living out in the mountains with his 12-guage, .38 special, and his "thirty-ought-six", against a well trained Company, Platoon, or Squad of Chinese Infantry, with tactics and body armor against him, will not survive... Not on his own.
Now, if someone dealt us a debilitating blow, through use of tactical or strategic nukes, biological, or chemical attack, followed by a ground invasion days later- then, yes.
Coming at us ***** nilly, would not be a good idea.
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i say bring it on, i could arm half my street with weapons, i keep 1000 rounds for the AR15 and over 1000 for the AK47 only alittle over 100 for each of the pistols but the 9mm i have about 500 (i buy in bulk). my wife thinks i am crazy but i say what happens if there is a civil war? or an alien invasion? or if another country invades? she just looks at me funny and shakes her head as i sit there polishing and cleaning my guns. probibly will never hapen but if it does who will think i am weird then?
a few of my guns
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