Feds Indict Vick in Dogfighting Case

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Briefly heard a sound clip on the radio at work this morning. Somebody on the Redskins was talking Vick up big time. Said he wasn't a bad person, everbody does stuff like this and people should just mind thier own business.

What a bunch of losers.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Yeah, people have their own opinions, but when the Feds have a case on you, it's serious business. Feds win 95% od their cases, 95% conviction percentage is a done deal.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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The indictment has a lot of specifics from multiple co-operating witnesses. Pretty interesting reading (thank's Dr. Franko for the link).

Get ready for Vick's defense team to claim that the Feds found some dog fighters, and all those guys made up a bunch of stuff about him in exchange for pardons or lighter sentences. The dogs and fighting gear on his property are just co-incidential.

If the allegations are true, he and several of his partners absolutely deserve jail time.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Yeah, it sickens me to hear about this... This came up a month or three ago, and Vick was denying it. However, even then they annouced "sources" stating Vick was well-known in the dog fighting arena.


While this is deviant behavior, isn't dog-fighting legal in some states? The reason I ask is, I could have SWORN I saw an interview or read an article years ago, about Roy Jones Junior (The boxer) and his involvement with dog (or chicken) fighting... To be dumb/bold enough to mention that publicly, I would have to believe it's legal, somewhere...

Sorry, I love dogs- and could never let anything like this slide.
He's rich & famous- so, he will not go to jail, no more than for the mug shots, and finger prints.

If he's guilty- throw the book at him. Prison, fines, and/or both.
Someone like Vick though, someone would have to have pictures of him there, for the charges to stick. Wealthy folks rarely get prison over hearsay.

Now, you or I....
You might be thinking about ****fighting. Its my understanding that rooster fighting is legal only in Louisiana, but only till the legislature signs the bill preventing it into law which would take effect September 2008.

http://www.publicdecision.com/issuedetails.aspx?is=326

Dog fighting is a crime in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. In fact it is a felony in 48 states. Being a spectator at a dog fighting event is illegal in 46 states. And even the possession of dogs for fighting purposes is prohibited in 39 states including Virginia.

Also to add to the mix, remember how Al Capone went to jail. He didn't pay income tax on his proceeds from his illegal activities. I suspect that Vick didn't disclose his earnings from dogfighting to the IRS and did not pay federal income tax on his earnings from this illegal enterprise. The IRS got Capone even when the Feds could not. I don't think that Vick is going to get out of doing real jail time if he is convicted.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Looks like all the snitches, who were involved in the dog fighting themselves, will get a pass for turning informant. Turning their friend in to save themselves. That's pretty disgusting, they are no better than Vick, maybe worse.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Looks like all the snitches, who were involved in the dog fighting themselves, will get a pass for turning informant. Turning their friend in to save themselves. That's pretty disgusting, they are no better than Vick, maybe worse.
So much for keeping it in the posse.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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So much for keeping it in the posse.
A commercial dog fighting enterprise.... I can't believe they thought they'd get away with it, but they did and for almost seven years. Makes you wonder how many other similar operations there are currently in our country.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
A commercial dog fighting enterprise.... I can't believe they thought they'd get away with it, but they did and for almost seven years. Makes you wonder how many other similar operations there are currently in our country.
It would be interesting to know how big it really is. I'm sure most take precautions not to get caught. They are probably on a much smaller scale, so they would be easier to hide. It can't be that big, can it????

I also wonder how many times Vick and his crew may have been involved in other dog fights. The indictment only covers what the co-operating witnesses have already talked about. That's enough to put him away, but it would not surprise me if even more damaging info comes out.

This is a major PR fiasco for the Falcons and the NFL. If they cut him/suspend him, they will be criticized of racism and not letting him have his due process. If they don't punish him, they look like they condone killing animals for entertainment. Plus the investigation and future trial could go on for years. Everytime there is a new development, the Falcons and NFL will be asked "Is this enough to suspend him???".
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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i can't believe how many people are sticking up for him. imo he is scum. has anyone ever seen dogs fight? my rottie got caught up with a coyote one time and it cost me over $1000 in vet bills and that fight lasted only long enough to get a clear shot at the coyote, maybe 30 seconds at most?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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He's extremely wealthy. He won't spend a day in jail for this. His partners will likely do some time but he'll pay a huge fine and walk.

If O.J. taught us anything it's that you can literally get away with murder if you can hire a buttload of high-priced lawyers.
i dont know, Kids, Grandmas and dog are things you just dont mess with.

cant play the races card, jealousy card or the temporarley insane card on this one. Just some rich guy killing puppies.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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I just heard on the radio that Vick was traded to Cleveland...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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I just heard on the radio that Vick was traded to Cleveland...
Now he's really in the dog pound.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Jeezus now an auto maker is drawn into the web--

DETROIT (Reuters) -- Chrysler Group apologized on Thursday for an advertisement that showed a dog being electrocuted beside its new Dodge Nitro sports utility vehicle.

The ad, created by BBDO Netherlands which supports Chrysler's sales in the Dutch market, shows a dog being electrocuted after urinating on a Nitro's wheels. The agency is part of Omnicom Group Inc's BBDO Worldwide.


2007 Dodge Nitro
The ad, which ends with the dog going up in flames, has the tagline "charged with adrenaline." According to Chrysler, the ad was placed exclusively on the Internet
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Turning their friend in to save themselves
And you wouldn't snitch if faced with 'years' of jailtime? Of course you would. Especially when someone like Vick can well afford it.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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And you wouldn't snitch if faced with 'years' of jailtime? Of course you would. Especially when someone like Vick can well afford it.
Speak for yourself.
 
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