Didn't Bush Take responsibility for the Failings of FEMA during Katrina?

Oh yea, He did..

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/...ton/index.html

"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility,"

I give him credit for admitting they screwed up. He doesn't do that very often..

 

Flamesuit time. (I know I'm late)

 

I remembered that, but- didn't want to go there; but- it goes back to what I said. Good or bad, right or wrong- when you sit in the big chair, "the buck stops here".



"The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job. " President Harry S. Truman, Farewell speech, Jan. 1953.

 

EXACTLY. if the elite media bashes someone (bush) long enough (6+ years) then eventually everyone will agree because thats all they have heard for 6+ years. the vast majority of the american public are ignorant and think the media is looking out for them and always tells the truth, therefore they form there opinions based on what they here on nbc, cnn or the daily show with jon stewart, which is that "bush is an idiot, the worst and dumbest president ever."

it amazes me how people worship clinton so much. if he would have been treated the same way bush has been by the media, i bet people would have a different opinion of him. so much of the 9/11 tragedy lays on clintons shoulders too, but he gets pretty much a free pass.......

 

Indeed- Like Odin said, perception is not always true. But, for most- perception is 9/10ths of reality. No matter who we get our news from, it's still based upon someone else's agenda. Media (all media, even conservative talk radio, and public access TV) is either fueled by advertising dollars, or one's personal agenda. In some cases, both. Variations on a theme.

We believe the media's interpretation when we want to : O. J. Simpson

We say the media is unreliable, when it's something we don't like: Bush's Presidency.

Perception...

If the media had been on Clinton like Bush? The media rode Clinton's **** from the day he won the DNC Nomination until the day Bush was sworn in. They mainly attacked his personal life, because professionally- it was hard to tie anything to him. A lot of crap came up during Clinton's years too.

• Paula Jones
• Whitewater
• NAFTA
• Monica Lewinski
• Governmental shut-down (Thanks to disagreement on budgets).

That's without really thinking about what else. They both took their licks (no pun intended).

While Clinton's trials are small compared to what Bush has had to deal with- it's really only because we have term limits in the White House. If we didn't, Bill Clinton would still be the President today. Even through eight years of media bashing, late night jokes, and special investigations, he was still the most popular President with the people, ever. I think trials and scrutiny made him more popular.

Bush won, twice- due to fear, name recognition, and- a lack of options.

Fred Thompson does seem like a good choice, but- I don't know enough about the man yet- to decide if he'll get my vote. I'm not gonna vote for him, just because he happens to be a powerful leader on just about everything I've ever seen him on, in the movies (In the Line of Fire, The Hunt for Red October), or TV (Law & Order). An actor made a great President before- that doesn't make it required DNA.

 

I won't vote for him for the sole reason he was a Lobbyist for 20 years. The Lobby system is one of the worst things of our political system. I don't think he's going to reform the current "pay to play" system....

 

And which candidate isn't influenced by the evil lobby mafia?

 

guess you haven't heard the democrat controlled congress has a 14% aproval rating. Kind of blows your theories right out of the water. Bush's most stupid mistakes are not communicating well, trying to get along with dumbocrats, and letting the dumbocrats walk all over him. The attorney firing.. he should have come straight out and said "yeah I fired them... so what? that is my perogitive" He should have pardoned libby straight out. Finally the whitehouse is speaking out against the dumbocrats who are trying to investigate bush for comuting his sentence. That whole farce should have blown the dumbocrats out of the water with there obvious hate filled witch hunt. But the media is behind the congress now that democrats are in control. I can't believe you said clinton was ragged on by the media. He was the media darling and couldn't do anything wrong. They reported a few things because they HAD to. And when they did, they put a positive spin on it. You can't even say that clinton was treated any where near as bad as bush with a straight face.

 

I offered a theory? I thought it was just an opinion...

Yes, I can... The difference is, Clinton didn't give the media and the comedians (Jon Stewart, Colbert, Leno, Letterman, Maher, etc..) as much free material as George does, everytime he opens his mouth. Don't get mad because Bill (And every other President we've had) have been great public speakers. When you can't communicate well, it should come as no surprise when people misunderstand you, don't listen to you, don't believe you, and more importantly, don't trust you.

No, I hadn't heard about the Congressional approval rating. However, the Congressional approval rating was in the toilet back when the Republicans were in charge too: (Source: http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

I guess we found out what America thought of the previous Congressional approval rating last November, didn't we? When the Republican led House and Senate was turned on it's ear.

Those are recent eff-ups. There is a lot more material we could cover.

Oh, and I'd bet he wouldn't have pardoned Libby if this was his first term. now that he's a lame duck, what's it gonna hurt?

Many political Republicans have turned their back on George. Why do you suppose that is?

Oh, and just in case you didn't know Chris, without two wings a plane won't fly very well. Checks & Balances Chris... Checks and Balances.

But, even when it was all Republicans, witness the results... (2001 - 2006)

It's just sad it took seven years for others to see, what many of us saw during the campaign, and in November of 2000. I admit, there weren't a lot of good choices, but Jeezuz... Twice?

 

Ron Paul. I'd like to see ole Fred run as his VP, and then if the old geezer reaches room temperature during his term, Fred can step in without throwing the whole system out of whack.

 

Blood's in the water. Notice how the article only suggests a specific impropriety. In a week, that'll be hard fact without substantiated proof. That's how the Game is played.

 

maybe if the economy was as good as it was under clinton and the budget was balanced like it was under clinton then maybe people would like bush too. he is more interested in dropping bombs instead of dropping the deficit.

 

Well, the economy is BETTER than it was under Clinton, and when did Clinton balance the budget? Never. Get your facts right. Have a nice day.

 

You're right- he didn't balance the budget...

We had a BUDGET SURPLUS.

The economy is better than it was under Clinton? While that may be true for Big Oil, Haliburton, and Defense Contractors; everyone else- including retail, has taken it on the chin. Consumer confidence has been in the toilet most of the last 6 years, although it's starting to rise again.

Just because the Dow is around 13,000- don't let that number fool you. Companies are more profitable, and investors are gaining because the American worker is being sold out. Jobs by the thousands are being sent to India, Brazil, the Phillippines, etc... American's by the thousands are being forced into career changes and lower paying jobs- because the higher paying ones are dying on the vine, or being relocated.

The only place to be relatively safe in America as a regular Joe, is through self-employment, work for Big Oil, work for the US Government, or contract with the US Government. Anything else, and the next "All Hands" meeting, may be your last.

That's why it seems like America is thriving... It's only thriving for the rich, and a few lucky middle-classers. Everyone else is treading water, floating, or sinking.

 

I was sinking way under under Clinton. Now I'm doing well. I guess I don't count though.