I disagree, since Roe vs. Wade in 1973 there have been over 30 million abortions. That is over 30 million less taxpayers, that will foot the bill for things like Social Security, defense or any other tax funded program. It is no wonder Social Security is failing. A very sizable percentage of the tax base was never allowed to be born. To put this into perspective. Right now the current population of the United States is 300 million, that means that over 10% of our population has been murdered.

So, does this still not affect you? I say it affects us all in more ways than we can imagine.

 

That's alot. But the normal day to day causes of death would off set a large percentage of those numbers. More born, more die. More born, more die from natual causes, accidents, murder etc.

I think it's hard to put a solid number like 30 million on it.

 

As far as reduction of the tax payer population, that's got to be the greatest stretch to grasp the issue that I've ever seen.

Again, this issue DOES NOT affect me in the slightest.

KC-10 FE out...

 

Total abortions since 1973 -- 38,010,378 (Based on numbers and estimates reported by the Alan Guttmacher Institute 1973-1996, with NRLC estimates of 1,365,730 for 1997 and 1998. AGI estimates a possible 3% underreporting rate, which is factored into the total.) Source

This is only through 1996, I would be willing to bet that in the last 10+ years we have topped 40 million.

 

Not saying the abortions weren't done. Just saying that if 40 million abortions were not done, it would not mean that 40 million more people would be alive today. Like I said, more born, more die.

Factor in all of the babies that would not have gone to full term for some other medical reason,

the ones that were still born,

the ones that die within the 1st year due to illness or birth defect,

the ones that died from child abuse,

the ones that died from a car accident,

the ones that drowned in a swimming pool,

the teenager that dies from a drug overdose,

the suicides,

the murders,

those that die at war,

the woman that died from domestic violence,

heart disease,

cancer,

the list goes on and on.

I don't like abortion either. But the numbers are stretched to say the least when you are factoring in the overall impact on society.

If I die tomorrow, only a hand full of people will even remember my name in 10
years. I've lost loved ones and had to go on. That's life.

No one is that important or has that much of an impact on the world today.

 

Who doesn't support this?



I mean come on, it is only a fetus and we wouldn't want to inconveince some woman who couldn't use birth control.

Heaven forbid....oh wait it already did.



The culture of selfishness rolls on...

 

The above taken from National Life Center.

Not ALL cases of abortion are done for purely selfish reasons.

 

 

Which somehow makes a difference?

Or does a picture of what is actually happening upset pro-deathers

Justify it anyway that makes if comforable.

right back at ya

 

The difference is, is that that "cartoon" is an exaggeration. It makes it look as if the baby is full term. Most abortions are performed at 8 weeks or earlier.

Just a question, are you anti-death penalty?

 

My perception on this whole issue changed quite a bit after the birth of my son. I remember looking at his ultrasounds from early in the pregnancy and thinking to myself, "I wonder what he's going to look like?"

You know what he looks like? Just like he did on those ultrasounds! From that point forward, the whole "a life isn't a life until birth" argument became asinine to me!

Plus, we can charge someone with murder if an unborn fetus is killed in an accident, yet we somehow twist reality to say killing a fetus by abortion isn't murder? It sounds to me like an awful lot of people are desperately trying to justify their actions, and grasping at straws to do so!

Although the inquiry wasn't directed at me, I'd gladly exchange the Death Penalty for no abortions. FWIW -- an offer like that would be DOA at the Democratic Party headquarters........

 

First of all, I'd like to clarify that I don't think everyone who is pregnant and doesn't want to be, should run out and get an abortion. Birth is a miracle as you can see in ultrasounds. I'm just trying to say that everyone's life is different and every circumstance is different. An abortion should be a last resort for every case. At this point in my life, I would NEVER think of having an abortion. I do believe though that is it every woman's right to choose.

Also, on the Death Penalty....there have been cases that people were found innocent while being on death row.

 

People make bad choices all throughout life and they eventually pay the piper.

 

Do you really want to get into this with me?

We've had our differences in the past and they have always ended with your feelings getting hurt. I regret even posting to be honest. I'm going silent on this topic. My feeling are abundently clear on both topics, no need to rehash them.

Debate the others you'll have plenty of posters to go rounds with.

 

An excellent reason not to have the Death Penalty, along with the fact that it actually costs more to kill them than simply throwing them in prison for life. I also suspect that it would be far worse to spend your life in jail, bored out of your mind and playing the role of someone's "Prison B*tch" that it would be to simply fall asleep via lethal injection.

Plus, I really don't think people stop and say to themselves, "I'm not going to kill this guy because I might get the chair....."