I agree with a better back ground check, in New York it takes 6 months to get your permit. And they check everything. If you have a few driving violations you cant get one, dwi you can never get one. My wifes friend applied for hers at the age of 30 and was declined because she had a fight with her father at the age of 13 and said in front of the cop '' if you touch me again I will kill you''. Also in NY the law states if you have a fire arm on you it must be loaded at all time so you can protect you and the fire arm at all times. Now after everything is done there last phone call is to the house hold and they ask if anyone has a problem with a firearm being in the house and if anyone does your permit is declined. IMO every place state should be like this. Now that isnt going to stop a person from buying an illigal firearm. But this kid wouldnt have bought one legaly here. And you cant apply for a permit until your 21.

 

I have thought of this too.
I work in schools everyday, everyday is a different school. I am a school photographer. I also have a vivid imagination and always try to prepare for any situation. This scenario has enetered my mind and most of the other photographers as well. What if we are at a shool and something like this happens.
Our first instinct is to save ourselfs. My second thought would be to save as many of the kids and other people as I can. Some of the schools have armed security guards. So as I would be sneaking through the halls trying to evacuate as many as I can safely, avoiding an crazed shooter, then if I bumped into a security guard, I would not be recognizeable to him becasue I am not there everyday.
Hope he has enough since not to open fire on me, but these are security I dont know how much training they have.
So I now have a crazed mad man shooting anyone at all and potentially an armed security gurad shooting anyone strange (IE: ME) to watch for. If the situation last long enough and police show up, now we have even more people in the halls and I am clueless, to them, for all they know I am the threat...... I would be forced to cooperate mean while wasting valuable time while the shooter reloads or finds more targets or escapes.

If I could carry on campus then the situation with me bumping into guards and police would be escalated 100 times.

However in any case, I could not sit idley by outside and listen ot gun shots knowing innocent kids Pre-Kindergarten - 12 are being gunned down.

So I ask:
What should I do?

 

Secure your area.
Hunker down until properly relieved.

You are niether armed nor law enforcement.

If you find yourself alone, go to where you can aide at least one other but, that would be the extent of involvement.

If you are with others do not abandon them, idientify yourself and reassure therm.

People who barricaded doors at VT lived.

 

I understand the concern about students having guns but I keep thinking of this quote from the novel "Point of Impact"

I wonder how many people there would have liked to have had a gun on them. But alas, they followed the law and didn't bring a gun, and the gunman, ignored the law and did.

 

well, i'm glad that your opinion doesn't matter in my state

 

Do you honestly believe he wouldn't have gotten his gun? After all, how many laws did he break, do you believe that a gun control law would have stopped him?

 

If he was denied through the legal channels to get one he would have simply bought one illegally

 

What im saying he wouldnt have been granted a handgun permit. Here you can get a rifle with just a drivers lisence. So it probably would have been a rifle instead of a handgun. I have a permit and I know what you have to do to get it. Doesnt mean bad people dont fall through the cracks because no one is perfect.

 

Honestly I cant imagine a more horriable nightmare come true.

Hunkered down, barricaded in, only activity is to defend your area, while listening to gun shots and screams.
I am shaking just thinking about it.

 

Thats what I stated before. Bottom line he would have done something.

 

Any laws are powerless to stop criminals when it comes to obtaining guns. Canada has horribly restrictive laws, especially on handguns. And what a surprise, it is extremely easy to obtain black market guns. Many come from Asia and are distributed through organized crime rings. People are still being killed by gang shootings, hell earlier this month one man was killed and another wounded (both innocents in the worng place) as they tried to run from a gang related shootout. Same with the college shooting in Montreal. Many firearms that are outright prohibited are the most common ones used by criminals. AK-47s and sub-machine guns, handguns classified as prohibited by law are still turning up in the hands of criminals.

Our great previous liberal gov in all its wisdom pissed away over two billion on another gun law bill and it has done nothing but make law abiding citizens lives more difficult.

 

Knowing that, what purpose do the gun laws, even New York's do to stop a criminal, intent on committing a crime with a gun?

Answer: nothing.

They only affect law-abiding citizens. I honestly don't understand the pro-gun control movement at all.

 

All you have to understand about them is they are some of the most arrogant and stupid people on the planet

 

Well, a baseball bat can kill people.

Are we to outlaw Baseball?

 

How bout knives? Hell Canada banned mace, and criminals are still using it to attack people
Only type thats still legal is bear mace, and its use is "controlled" by law.