What type of football field do you play on? A football field is 100yds long plus 20yds of end zones, 100yds=300ft.

Also, the pictures that you showed were for what could be not what airlines will pay for. Every ounce in that aircraft is extra fuel that the airline will pay for every time the aircraft flies in its ~30 lifespan. Lounges, bars and rest areas all require that seats be removed from the floorplan. Fewer seats equal less potential income. Most airlines will not even consider adding this much operating expense and gain very little in return.

 

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THen think of the ground crews you've seen and baggage people you've seen . . . what, you think those slow moving bums are suddenly going to become faster just because a 380 pulled up?

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Trust me, it will take even longer with a 380 because they will have more to unload/load from a larger area. The ones I have to deal with cant even get a 600 or 700 series turned around on time

 

50 yards wide, not long.

 

The airbus A380 is a bad boy, I've been a fan for a long time... (Since it was on the drawing board, and Discovery channel started talking about it).

But, I'd still prefer a 747. It's packed with new technology, and that bad-boy's design has been in service 37 years. The A380, while larger, wil not unseat the 747... People are used to seeing that hump... The most easily distinguishable aircraft by far.

And now with the 747-400 ER, it has (or had) the longest operational range of any aircraft, challened only by Boeing's own 777. But, I gotta tell you, if you're taking me out over the Pacific Ocean, I'd rather have 4 engines than 2.

The new technology is amazing though. I read somewhere that 1 engine on the 777 produces more thrust than all 8 engines on a B-52 bomber. Is that efficient or what?

With two engines (double the power), you'd think it'd be faster, and woudl fly higher than a B-52, but it's not, and it doesn't. Old BUFF's been around 50 years, and they plan to have him around another 50 years- Dropping bombs accurately from 50,000 feet above the target. I'd love to ride in one of those SOB's on a bombing run...

Damn, I shouldda joined the Air Force!

PS- When properly configured, a 747 can carry 555 passengers.

Source: Worldbook Encyclopedia, Volume "A", 1980.

Airbus A380



747-400 ER (Extended Range) (Over 7,400 + /- Nautical miles, on one tank of gas!)



BUFF: B-52

 

I want one!

 

Ive never been too sure about the quality of Airbus. Since Ive been at the airport the only jets that have had problems have been Airbuses. Had one turn back with smoke in the cabin from electrical problems, nothing like having fire trucks, ambulances and police cars all over the place and one more that aborted takeoff. Plus the other problems Ive read about that other habve posted, the rudders and elecetrical.

Going over the Atlantic in a 747 was a very comfortable flight. Even though it was on older plane and you could see its age. The return flight was on a Lufthansa Airbus, more modern and better seats but I would have preferred the 747.

 

Delivery service available!

 

Didnt Airbus build a special cargo plane just to transport parts of their other aircraft?

 

Yeah, I trust Boeing a little more than I do the others.

When I look at my ticket, and it says Boeing 737, MD-80, MD-88, MD-90- I'm cool. When it says Airbus A320, A310 I have a Maalox moment, until we're off the ground (Most crashes occur during take off, and landing). They just don't feel the same, or sound the same.

I flew on a Embraer something or other via US Airways in 2006. At first glance (out the window), I thought it was a 737. I got inside and there were two rows of 2 seats each. I was like- what the **** is this?

Looked in the seat back and got the info sheet, saw Embraer... That was a Maalox moment... Very smooth flight from D.C. to Dallas, but it seemed to take a lot longer (3.5 hours) than I anticipated. Heck, on that little Canadair regional jet, we made it from Oakland to Dallas in 2h:30m, and that was countign the little tour of the bay we did, before he finally climbed out, and headed east.

That little joker was moving. If memory serves, he took us up to 50,000 feet, and just under the speed of sound (According to the Captain).

I'd never been that high before. 41,000 was the highest I'd been on a flight from Frankfurt Germany to Dallas, TX, in a Delta Airlines Lockheed L-1011 Tristar (W/ Rolls Royce Engines). It was a smoot flight from Frankfurt until we were over St. Louis, then it got bumpy... Roller coaster bumpy. We were at 34,000, the Capt. got clearance to go to 41,000 to get above the choppy air. It didn't work, and the captian said the plane (L-1011) could not go above 43,000 (which they would not let him climb to) so, we had to ride it out. It was a gut wrenching ride from St. Louis, almost all the way to Dallas.

The cool thing about the L-1011 and DC-10's, they'd turn the camera's on when we're on final approach, and you can see the runway coming... What I didn't know is that once we landed (11 hours after we took off) everyone would cheer.

 

Ever since my experience going from Frankfurt to Copenhagen I never want to fly on an Airbus or with Lufthansa again. Power went out in the cabin, then well the landing was interesting to say the least. Then the part from Frankfurt to Toronto, just didnt feel comfortable on that plane.

 

To stir the pot even more...

Airbus is owned by EADS, EADS is owned by shareholders. The largest shareholders are European governments.

Airbus recieves its primary certification through EASA, EASA is run by European governments. Socialism at its best.

You were lied to, high speed cruise is .82 (CRJ-700 & -900 the -200 are slower) Mach max ceiling is 41000ft.

 

It was a CRJ-700 (78 passengers)

Well, maybe he was counting the jet stream push too, can only tell you what he told us. Mach .82 is moving pretty fast. (Wikipedia has it at .85 Mach). I don't know how high we were really going, or how fast. But- I do know that from wheels up to wheels down, was 2h:30 minutes. It took almost 4 hours to get there from Dallas on a 737. That's a pretty big disparity.

I'm sure the flight paths were different, but- it was a much faster return flight, albeit cramped.

Now, the Embraer (E-170) while smaller than the 737, but bigger than the Bombardier/Canadair CRJ-700, had better leg room than both, and was a comfortable- but lengthy flight back.

737's are still my favorite small jets (Mainly considering the reliability), but if I'm traveling far, give me a 747 and a door seat any day.

I have yet to fly on a 757, 767 or 777.

I have flown on:

• American Eagle Twin engine Prop (Monroe, LA to Dallas, TX)
• Bombardier/Canadair CRJ-700
• Embraer E-170
• Airbus A318
• Airbus A320
• Airbus A321
• Boeing 727
• Boeing 737
• Boeing 747
  
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  Originally Posted by wikipedia.org

  The 747-400D (Domestic) is a high density seating model developed for short-haul domestic Japanese flights. Capable of seating a maximum of 568 passengers in a 3-class configuration or 660 passengers in a single-class configuration, the aircraft is the highest-capacity passenger aircraft in the world, even when the Airbus A380 officially enters service.
• UH-60: Blackhawk
• CH-47: Chinook
• OH-58 (Co-Pilot seat)

I wouldn't mind flying on an A-340, that looks sweet... Four engines, and sleek- reminds me of the 707, only nicer...


Dayum! I guess if you see it from the proper angle, the A380 is awe-inspiring.

 

One aircraft that I will NEVER get on is the SAAB 340B. The other airline I did work for used these, total POS. Constantly grounded for mechanical reasons. Had many turn back or never even get off the ground. When we were down 3 aircraft at one time, creates alot of headaches for everyone.

The old Hawker 748s they use as freighters and for charter service are probably some of the best planes I have ever seen. The newest one was built in the early 80s. Most of these planes are rarely south of Hudson Bay, only time they have been grounded is for required updates to keep them certified for flight. They are big, ugly, loud, and far from "refined" inside but they always make it there. I would fly on one of those any day

 

Conehead, anyone?

 

Actually, I was thinking of getting the company to the Berkshire NetJet thing and then abuse the privilege by using it for personal transportation needs.