If I were to get such a thing in the mail it would be going straight to the trash.

 

I hope I get it in the mail.... I will call up and yell at them loud not to contact me any more. Especially with that ugly thing. The UAW has more to do with the American car companies problems than management does lately. The companies aren't fat dumb and happy any more. The unions are greedy in the current market environment. They know they have to make a good product to compeat... but the costs are so high they couldn't be competitive. Any of the toyota plants union yet???? didn't think so..... I will support an American company long before an unfair trading partner if I have a choice. BTW... the content sticker on the ford vehicles say north american content ... that includes mexico and canada. At least they trade more fairly with us than japan.

 

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I didn't get the Toyota thing but I DID get a New Ford catalog in the mail recently. Dang they're sweet!

Let's see, a new F150, or maybe a 250. That F350 Dually sure looks nice.... I guess those aren't markets Toyota really wants to advertise to.

 

Send it on to me.

 

As for the cop car bit, Motor Trend has an interesting comparo in, I think, last months issue.

As for the OP's question, like others have said they can purchase all kinds of info for marketing but don't worry, they can't pull your credit without your permission. Even those "pre-approved" cards and such haven't pulled your credit. Those are based off of the credit agencies selling names that fall into certain brackets. Toyota's plan was openly geared towards pulling owners of the Big 3's products. They had a goal of doubling the sales of their Tundra.

They also are attempting to do an "underground" marketing campaign, a la Scion, by parking the trucks near construction sites, near Ford dealerships, at events like Rodeo's and the like.

Really, I just like counting how many "perfect" Toyota's I see on the side of the road broken down or the recalls that keep piling up. Do I think they make a good product, definitely, do I think it's the best, not really. I just get irked when I see people claiming the things are infallible and that everything else (read American)is crap.

 

Your telling me you'd rather have a tundra then your KR Superduty? I hope not.

 

I just realized something that is quite entertaining. A week or two ago in the GD forum, someone posted a bulletin with a video posted on Youtube.com with someone that is 'associated' with Ford who was picking apart a Tundra and comparing it to the F-150 at an auto show. No one knew or still knows if Ford did this or if it was just his brand loyalty and he did it on his own. BUT! They still said how Ford was hitting below the belt, etc. NOW! We've got Toyota sending crap out like this to F-150 owners, where the hell are all of you critics!? If anything this is below the belt. Send one to me, I'll just use it to start my burn pile, I could use some extra . .

PS: Call me brand loyal, but I'm only loyal to the brands that I believe have the overall best products. .

I was thinking the same thing . .

 

You might ask Ford that question. The superduty does not have a frame thats fully bosex in. Even the 2008 superduty is built more like the Tundra frame, Boxed front and C channel rear.

 

I would figure that a guy that goes by the handle of RamSS/T would know that the Challenger has not been built since the mid-70s and then it was a two door car.

 

I love the deep bed. It is perfect when I need to haul stuff without taking my bedcover off.

Grim

 

I'll take a new Tundra CrewMax 4x4.

Toyota makes great trucks and has a reputation for a long-lasting vehicle. Not looking at one when you buy your next vehicle is just stupid. If I decide to get another truck when I get a new vehicle in several years, I will look at all of my options, not just head down to the local Ford dealer and drive one off the lot without so much as a test drive.

 

I have an idea, in the magazine they sent me is a coupon that states if I come test drive one of thier trucks, they will give me a pre-paid $50.00 Master Card. I might just go test drive one of those trucks, trash the hell out of it and get 50 bucks to buy something for my truck! What say ya'll?

 

this has been discussed before... the superduty is in a different classes, dealing with potentially MUCH greater weights. At those weights having too stiff of a frame could cause too much localized stress and CRACK something. So, superduty trucks, like their full size diesel truck/big rig brothers do not have fully boxed frames.

In contrast, F150s/Chevy 1500s etc deal with a smaller weight class where a fully boxed frame is optimal. Considering Ford IS, and HAS BEEN the leader in the truck industry for quite some time I'm pretty sure THEY already have that figured out

 

So what you are saying is Tundra took the heavy duty route with their half ton and the F150 was built more like a unibody vehicle (Stiff too a point but fails if pushed beyound a point)

How has Ford been the leader in the truck industry and dont say sales numbers, GM has already proven they sell more trucks, under multiple names, but still more trucks and at less of a loss as a company.

 

MATT ?!?!?! Is that you?


The sheer volume of your posts in this thread alone belies those statements.

Methinks you're worried about the Tundra . . . for whatever reason, it threatens you - or something you care about. It's OK. Soon you'll be turning Japanese, just like the rest of us . . . I really think so.