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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Is there a speedlimit in the US/Canada for cars/trucks pulling trailers?

Max. speed here is 80 km per hour.(+- 50 mph)
Nope, its the regular limit. Thank god, I couldnt stand being on the swedish roads behind some *** going 80-90 km/h and not being able to pass because of those stupid dividers on the highways
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by F150Europe
Is there a speedlimit in the US/Canada for cars/trucks pulling trailers?

Max. speed here is 80 km per hour.(+- 50 mph)
Here in Manitoba, Canada I can do full highway speed 100 KMH(62 MPH).

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are these supposed to be the new mirrors? or have i just never seen them before



They're an option for '07.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Most of my time pulling trailers have been when the truck outweighed the trailer, so stopping was never much of an issue, just allow a few more feet between vehicles for that multi-thousand pound joker behind you that's still pushing. (We had no brakes on our trailers, just lights)


If U-Haul trailers have brakes on them, I didn't know about it, and couldn't tell. My monitor gave no indication of it. I see they have something called "Automatic hydraulic surge brake". I don't know what that means, or how it works...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Its kinda like what most boat trailers have...Its a surge brake...Its all done by momentum in the hitch. When the brakes are applied on the truck the force of the trailer pushes foward inside the hitch causing the brakes to apply to the trailer. On our boat it has a like a master brake cylinder with brake fluid so when the force pushes it foward, it applies the brakes to the trailer. The truck doesnt need a brake box then.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
If U-Haul trailers have brakes on them, I didn't know about it, and couldn't tell. My monitor gave no indication of it. I see they have something called "Automatic hydraulic surge brake". I don't know what that means, or how it works...
Automatic hydraulic surge brake is a self contained brake system on the trailer. You do not have to hook anything up to the truck except the hitch. How they work is with a tiny master cylinder in the hitch itself. When the weight of the trailer comes forward on the ball it is pushing on the master cylinder, the harder it pushes the further it pushes the master cylinder applying more brake to the trailer wheels. It is easy to tell if a trailer has Hydraulic surge brakes or not....

A normal Hitch coupler looks something like this.



Of course there is a variety of style this is the monst common, because it is the cheapest..... Not necessarily the best, but thats another subject for debate

Automatic hydraulic surge brake coupler looks like this...



Notice the big box in the back, that is where the master cylinder for the trailer is.

Now, two things, your trailer may or may not have had them depending on the size of the trailer. The standard hitch is about $12 and the Surge hitch is about $300 plus has a higher maintenance. So unless one of the state has a law that requires that size trailer to have it, then U-haul doesn't put them on any trailer they don't have to. Know what I mean?
Also second thing is if it had them, where they working????? With U-Haul that is a BIG question...... I don't rent form them if I can keep from it......
Third option is you are not use to the trailer so they might have been working and you just didn't realize that they were doing anything, just the fact of not being use to pulling with a load, much less a load with that trailer. A quick test is to back up.... If it seems like it takes alot more throttle to back up than go forward, then they are working. Because when you back with out getting out of the vehicle and going back and disengaging them, then it is hard to back one. Which brings up another scenario. The person that used it before you probably backed it into it's parking spot and left them disengaged.......
 

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Yep, the one I had looked like this.



Learned something today- thanks guys...


Yeah, in my Jr or Sr year of high school, a guy back home got killed on the Ferriday/Vidalia highway (84/65). Freak accident. His car had broken down, and some guy coming along later bass boat/trailer came off the hitch and careened into this guy on the side of the road, killing him. Come to find out numbknuts didn't have the safety chains hooked up that would have engaged the emergency brakes on the trailer (if equipped) or, at the very least, kept the load behind the truck, somewhat.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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I need to give my boat trailer some type of brakes. Last summer while towing in the rain, I was coming down an overpass (downhill) to a red light. The streets were slick, and I couldn't see the white stop line on the road til it was too late. Hit the brakes, and the trailer almost pushed me through the intersection.

Also, that tree I posted pics of, is now 8' long, with a hole through it the size of your head. It can be lifted by 3 people, and is currently being carved for St. Pats.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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the 06 HD F-150 Reg cab had a GCWR of 15,800 lbs and a tow rating of 10,500lbs... now suddenly the GCWR is 15,300lbs and the tow ratings 11,000??

Ford's playing the numbers game.. and if there not carefull toyota's gonna shut them up real quick..

the Tundra's GCWR is 16,000lbs and there pulling 10,600lbs with a supercab

as for me.. my new Tundra runs purty good with the 4.30s in the rear and that there 5.7L ..

 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UberDude
the 06 HD F-150 Reg cab had a GCWR of 15,800 lbs and a tow rating of 10,500lbs... now suddenly the GCWR is 15,300lbs and the tow ratings 11,000??

Ford's playing the numbers game.. and if there not carefull toyota's gonna shut them up real quick..

the Tundra's GCWR is 16,000lbs and there pulling 10,600lbs with a supercab

as for me.. my new Tundra runs purty good with the 4.30s in the rear and that there 5.7L ..

Good god, slap 4.30's in the F150 and tow rating would low ball at 18,000 lbs-20,000 lbs......

You dont think toyota is playing the numbers game???
Everyone has been playing the numbers game since the first company to compete against Henry Ford.

Horse Power... What is that???? 1 HP = 33,000 foot-pounds in a minute..... How does knowing how much work the engine can do in a minute really help you know what the vehicle is going to do? Especially if you take into count the multiple gear reductions to multply that torque beofre it reaches pavement and vehicle weight, etc etc etc....

It dont help you at all!!!
It's part of the numbers game and us as consumers have been trained to follow it.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Uhh, the Tundra not only has 65+ more lb/ft trq and 81 more HP, but two more gears which significantly increases towing capability. I think the 10500lb towing rating on the Tundra is much more realistic than an 11000lb tow rating on the F150. I mean numbers dont lie.

On a side note, Uberdude I like the way the Scab doors are on the Tundra. I know mine are a pain to let people in and out when parked beside other cars. Also the lack of a B pillar really compromises structural integrity, I know my Scab doors sound like they are going to fall off when doing over even minor bumps and Ford says its normal.

And 18in wheels standard, nice.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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I do hate the sucide doors too.

I am not true blue Ford, when I get my next one not only is it going to be a 1 ton diesel, so rules out toyota just becsaue they dont have either, but it will be a a quad cab, especially if it's a Ford..... Ford and Dodge is what I will be looking at.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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Just saw this and thought of this thread.....

 
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