Ford better have some big plans to keep F-series on top. Toyota is ramping up their truck line for '07 with plans to introduce a heavy duty line in the near future. Check this gallery for the '07 Tundra crew cab.
I believe the 5.4 is now the smallest optional engine choice in the full size truck market.

http://www.netcarshow.com/toyota/2007-tundra_crewmax/

 

That is a pretty good looking truck.

 

It'll all even out whenever the 6.2 and the diesel comes online.

Competition improves the breed.

 

Agreed, but Ford should have this stuff available already, or at least be advertising it's future availability. Toyota's 5.7 puts the Dodge Hemi to shame with 381 HP and 401 lb ft of torque plus a 6 speed auto.

 

I love test driving. I hate salesmen. I'll def put up with those naggers to drive that ;D Looks like poo but probably pulls like a rock.

 

Anyone notice how high the RPMs are for those power ratings? Like a damn Honda Civic. DEFINITELY NOT a truck friendly rating... low RPM numbers would be interesting to see.

 

The 5.7 is a 10.2:1 compression rated engine and making good power on 87 octane fuel. With that in mind, consider the untapped power that is still available in this engine if tuned to run on 93 octane.!!!!!!! And yes there is a Company working on a tuner for this vehicle...

 

If you go to Toyota .com and check out this trucks features they will be hard to beat. If you are a contractor it is made for you. I would bet it will be 10 grand more than a Ford though.

 

600 RPM for 81 more HP... Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice.. And, at 150 less revolutions, the 'Yota is making 36 more lb.ft. of torque... That's what really makes a difference where trucks are concerned. We'll have to wait and see how soon in the RPM band the majority of the torque is available. I think Ford has 90% of peak torque (328.5 lb/ft.) available at 1,800 RPM.

If that's the industry benchmark, I'm sure Toyota will get close to that, or may even exceed it, seeing that their maximum tow rating (when properly equipped) is nearly 800 lbs more.

Change is a good thing, we must learn to embrace it!


Note: Ford will never match that HP rating... Not until 2011 at the earliest
But, what Ford will do is match or exceed the torque rating, and state that is the true measure of a truck... They're only 36 lb/ft from that now- with no changes.

I wouldn't hold my breath for a diesel to match wits in HP or Torque with the big gassers for the following reasons.

1- Although typically more fuel efficient, diesel is (right now) more expensive than gas.

2- Slapping a diesel into a light-duty truck might be a first, but it may cannibalize Super Duty sales.

3- The PSD 6.0L is an industry benchmark on HP and Torque. To diffrentiate them, one should expect a smaller displacement in the LD, and no more then 80 - 90% of those peak numbers to keep the SD a viable alternative. (Or, the PSD would have to move up significantly to distance itself from a diesel in the LD line), I'd uesstimate a 5.0L PSD, with 260 - 290 HP, and 455 - 510 lb/ft.

Just guesses; but that's what I'd bet on... From a marketing standpoint, to keep from cutting into SD sales, they'd have to do this... Or, just say "eff it", and offer the 6.0L PSD as is across the entire F-series line, and let whatever happens, happen.
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5.7-liter DOHC EFI V8, 32-valve aluminum block with aluminum alloy head with Dual VVT-i
381 hp @ 5600 rpm
401 lb.-ft. @ 3600 rpm
Bore and stroke: 3.70 x 4.02
Compression ratio: 10.2:1
Displacement: 5663 cc
Ignition system: DIS (Direct)
Emissions: ULEV II
Recommended fuel: 87 octane or higher

Optional Engine
5.4L V8
Horsepower @ RPM
300@5000Torque @ RPM
365@3750 (foot/lbs)

 

Ford is taking is serious. They have been out in front with the 04 rebuild I'm sure they are ready for the Toyota. I think the truck looks decent but from what I see of the tail lights...yuck...

It will be well built I'm sure.

 

I must say the stats on the Toyo are impressive. My hope is that Ford hurries the "alleged" Hurricane motor to production. It supposedly matches those hp and torque numbers. Ford also has a 10.5 inch ring gear axle in the heavy duty payload pkg F150, they need to put that in with the bigger motor also. I believe Ford has the hardware in the works to compete head to head with Toyota, its just a matter of getting it online!

 

umm.. I think not.
Looks like its making well over 300ft lbs @ 1200 rpms(thats almost right off idle), and 380ft lbs @ 2800, then peaking at 401 @ 3600...then never drops below 380ft lbs until 5300. Thats a VERY good torque curve, but the real kicker here is that it comes with a 6spd not a 4, so they can gear it to be much more powerful with an aggressive 1-4th, and a more relaxed 5th and 6th to still get 20mpg.

 

Impressive...

If Ford's numbers for the 5.4L are as I seem to remember (90% of avail torque at 1,800 RPM) That's 328.5 lb/ft @ 1,800 RPM's. I haven't been able to confirm that... But, looking at the chart provided, the Tundra looks like it's at 340 @ 1,600- Not quite 90%, but still more torque than everyone else.

 

401 lb.-ft of peak torque at 3,600 rpm. (2007 Tundra)

365 lb.-ft of peak torque at 3,750 rpm (2007 F150)

 

I'll still take a ford truck over a toyota.