No doubt, but it shows how things are starting to really heat up in the full size truck market.

 

Write this down somewhere and remember that I told you today.
Within the next 3 to 4 years Toyota will own the full size truck market in this country...Laugh, disagree, cuss, stomp, call me an @ss but I guarantee you that it will happen....

 

Maybe in the poser world, but in the real world I beg to differ.

 

I have been saying that for the past year or so, and yes, it is true, Toyota will take over Ford as the company people purchase a "real" and "serious" truck from...

It's to late for Ford, it's over for Ford, all Ford can do is try and remain number 2 or 3. Ford has NEVER learned how to actually compete in a "serious" market, and haven't even began to learn unless they invite Toyota into their factories to completely redo them, give them proper processes so Ford can at least make good quality products...

Even if Ford was to partner with Toyota Ford will still lag behind Toyota as they do now. Ford will lag behind Toyota for years, decades, because Toyota is a serious business that is into making serious profits so as to continue to kick the crap out of Ford and the other "traditional" American vehicle manufactures who have never "got it" since the 70's, oh well, so sad, don't matter to me as I'll buy the other American manufactured vehicle which is Toyota if need be...

Then there is customer service, but we won't go there as that is a nasty word in Ford's business books...

 

No poser about it unless your talking about Ford. Toyota is a serious business and they are kicking the crap out of Ford, that's all there is to it...

 

Well, like I've said before, Toyota is gearing up to take over the World. Toyota is to auto manufacturers like China is to countries. Heck, they are even in NASCAR Nextel cup this year.

Toyota has nothing but hits; everything they sell becomes a top seller. They also have the highest resale value of any car builder, and offer the least amount of incentives when they sell their cars.

Most analysis expects Toyota to surpass GM as the number 1 auto manufacturer in 2007. Now they are building their first real attempt at a 10th/10th scale truck (in Texas no less), not the 9th/10th scale the Tundra was.

Because of the long standing legacy of domestic full size trucks, I don’t think Ford or Chevy have to worry about Toyota yet, but in the next 5-10 years they could see themselves in 2nd or 3rd in full size truck sales.

 

If it wasn't for Ford basically giving away their F150's to "fleet sales" Ford wouldn't be number one for truck sales. If you compared truck sales to the general public I don't think Ford would be number 1.

Don't matter as they are about to get stomped by Toyota when it comes to legacy trust me as that will not help Ford. Unless Ford continues to give away their vehicles like they are now for people like me to take advanatage of Ford is basically done.

If it would have not been for D-plan and some other nice things I got I would have purchased a Toyota and not a Ranger...

 

Ford has history behind their world dominance. What does Toyota have other than bombarding us with ecomoboxes in the gas crisis? Heck of a start. Ford may be in a financial mess but they will always make a better truck. No that wasn't my @$$ talking.

Real truck drivers will not buy a toyota.

 

Have another look at the gallery in my original post and tell me that "real" truck drivers aren't eying up the '07 Tundra.

 

ROTFLMAO....

REAL truck drivers will buy trucks that have value, quality, and a good price. REAL truck drivers do not hang on to brand names and are not brand loyal...

It's like the difference between men and boy's. Real men will buy a truck because it's a real truck and not because of the name on it. Toyota is a real truck and it's about to surpass Ford and thus real men will buy a Toyota if they feel it has the better value, quality and can do the job...

Boy's will continue to buy a Ford because Ford's name is on it and their buddies might not like them if they don't have a Ford...

 

I think they will if they want a more serious truck, and resale value..

Higher resale value means easier (cheaper) to lease because they don't depreciate as fast, negating the higher price.

Not that the F-150 isn't serious, it is; but the competition is matching and exceeding it in many ways... Heck, aside from not being as pretty, an F-150, pound for pound, has it's hands full against a Titan... Now, here comes Toyota, and just wait, a new Titan will be due around the same time a new F-150 drops... Its about to get real hot in the truck kitchen...

 

I understand that the resale values are better for the toyotas, that's because there aren't as many of them on the road. I see more Ford trucks on the road than any other, of course that has alot to do with my location. It also says alot about what people want, a Ford.

 

There are more Ford's on the road because of the incentives they use to blow them off the lot. THAT'S what lowers the resale on the F150's. Bottom line is, Ford is in real danger of losing their "king of the hill " status. Just wait when Toyota debuts their heavy duty trucks that are being aimed squarely at Ford's super duties. Judging by what they've done with the Tundra, Ford is in alot of trouble.

 

No one's arguing that... Ford is a good truck... I've had 5 of them, still drive one. Love it. Besides, Ford will still lead the way in sales for a while to come...

But, change is inevitable... It's gonna happen. 20 years ago, who foresaw Ford or GM losing Car Wars to Japan? That's happened. People in the future will no longer drive a Ford because that's what grandpa and Daddy drove. They are going to review the stats and make a choice.

True...

I got mine for $10,000 off MSRP in Feb. 2006. You won't see Toyota taking $10,000 off.
I think it's great, I can get a new Ford at will.. I'm sorry to see it happen, and happy at the same time... All those years of dealer BS. "If you can get another $1,000 we can get you financed" now it's "No credit, no problem!!"

Payback is a bit*h! Just glad I've lived to see it- 6 years in a row...

 

Ford did a real number to the loyal F-150 following with Employee pricing, This knocked the value of a allready over priced truck to nothing, And if your F-150 is not up to Fords built tough standards, The toyota is a tempting .

GM employee pricing blew out a old truck, Now The new GM trucks are nice, quick and get better mileage, thier better matched to take on the Toyota than Ford, or Dodge.

Wait for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks from Toyota and Nissan, they will be here soon, Todays 1/2 ton trucks are cars with a box, the real work horse's are the power stroke, Duramax and cummins, Thier days are limited....