Perhaps for the same reason people hear don't like him: because they don't know any better.

People liked the previous president because he got a hummer from and intern.

It's easy to hate someone when you're constantly being told how bad a person they are. I'm not so sure why people like someone for doing some thing wrong. Maybe because people are rebelling against accountability.

History will sort all of this out. I will admit I'm wrong then, if it becomes necessary.

 

Boy, does that make a great deal of sense...kinda hard to argue with logic like that...

BTW---Clinton was certainly not the first Prez to get somethin' in the Oval Office. A guy named Warren G. Harding (Yep a Republican) was guilty of this, as well. Quite a skirt chaser; even Teddy Roosevelt's daughter commented that, "Doesn't that man know what a bedroom is for?" Clinton, a la Nixon (sheesh---another Republican) got caught...

I guess you could say that what Clinton did to the intern, Nixon did to his presidency; there was a man who had the election in the bag; had extricated us from Vietnam (or was in the process of it, anyway), opened the trade doors to China, therefore bringing an end to the Cold War, and he F's (can you say BIGTIME??!) up his chances to be remembered as a great president---Wow, Watergate...

Click your heals together and say, "I am not a crook." "I am not a crook." "I am not a crook."

I guess that it is relatively easy to see that the lack of ethical behavior does not simply exist on the blue side of the aisle...

Tim C.

 

I wasn't trying to say that it did.

My point was that people around the world apparently hate our current president because he's had to deal with events that aren't all that common. It's easy for us all to second guess everything the current adminstration does, but it seems rather difficult for even politicians to offer viable alternatives. On the other hand people constantly praise the previous president for things he's done, including recieving oral sex fom an intern. He was a charismatic, racey president and people seem to like that.

I think that the current president may look like a clown but I think that he makes the country look strong.

I think that the previous president may have looked like a fun guy but I think he makes the country look like clowns.

In reality it doesn't matter what I think. The country, the voting public, has sent a message. To me it says that I'm in the minority with my beliefs. I think it's to bad that people think it's ok to get a blow job but not ok to defend the country from terrorists.

 

First of all,I apologize for the sarcasm; that was wrong on my part. I don't honestly believe, however,that anybody would think that it is OK to receive oral sex in the Oval Office; I, as a "blue" party member was outraged at what occurred. It was, plain and simple, immoral.

I believe that it is necessary to defend the country from terrorists; I do believe though, that his methods of doing this presently are incongruous with the actual terrorism itself.

Tim C.

 

Why does Clinton's blow job keep coming up as relevant? Big fraking deal... I don't care who he has sex with, or where he has sex. I couldn't care less. What happens to Clinton's ***** or who provides the service bears no real impact on how the nation is perceived, or at least it shouldn't. All it showed was that the President is human too. He's no worse (Actually, far better) than all these Catholic priests tagging little boys left & right, and not being prosecuted- but relocated. If you can't trust a priest, who can you trust? I guess that vow of celibacy doesn't exclude male booty.

Did you guys know George Bush (Sr.) had an affair too? I knew. With 85% of married men cheating on their wives, and 80% of women cheating on their husbands, most voting age Americans (over 50%) have no moral yard stick by which to measure Clinton's morality... That may explain why he didn't receive much ridicule from the American people.

Republicans have no room to waive a flag of morality. Not when they are text-messaging underage kids with sexual notes.

I might not think Bush is the best man to lead our country, but I am not "Anti-Bush". I'm just disappointed that George Bush, Al Gore, and John Kerry was the best this country has had to offer as a leader in the last 8 years. I truly find that hard to believe. But, America has spoken, twice- so either I'm hard to please, or George has a lot of people fooled, or convinced he's the best man.

I liked Reagan too, but Reagan effed up as well (Iran Contra ring any bells?) Every President has had a scandal.

Bush: WMD, Katrina
Bush: WMD/Iraq
Clinton: Lewinski
Clinton: Whitewater, Paula Whatshername
Bush: Unfinished business in Iraq, Jennifer Fitzgerald, military downsizing
Reagan: Iran/Contra, scapegoating Oliver North
Reagan: Marine barracks/Lebanon
Carter: Iran hostages
Ford:
Nixon: Watergate
Johnson: Vietnam/Macnamara
Kennedy: Marilyn Monroe, Vietnam, Bay of Pigs

I don't know fellaz. A bj is a pretty small thing compared to some of this stuff.. I mean, what damage was done to any of us as a result of Monica giving Bill a spit shine?

It was a big deal in the media, but, lets keep it's real impact in perspective.

 

Please note, with the exception of the aforementioned sex act, all of those scandals have basically involved at some point a foreign policy dependent on supporting people we know damn well would cut our throats at any given moment if it were of more benefit to them than the aid we give.

What that means is that our current path, being in essence no different from the path we have always chosen, will ultimately yield the same results.

 

I believe it was the subsequent trial that made us looks like clowns not so much the actual sex act.

Bighersh, I've been reading your posts here for years, and believe that you're a good guy but the opinions like the ones above, I believe, show an attempt to lower the bar. Beacuse statistics say that there are a lot of cheating spouses, it shouldn't be a big deal when a sitting president is caught cheating? How many people lie under oath? If enough people do it, it's not a big deal?

I'm not here making excuses for all the scandals brought to our government by representatives of both parties. I think getting a bj, then lieing under oath are a big deal. Maybe a lot of people do cheat. I wont. I'd leave her before I cheated on her. I think cheating is a cheap, low life thing to do. We are supposed to be farily smart beings and should do a better job of understanding our urges. If you have become president, you should be acutely aware of the consequence of succumbing to urges.

I'm pretty liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality. There still needs to be standards though. When someone is molesting children, attempting to bend pages over, or getting a hummer under a desk in the oval office, they should be called on it. If we keep lowering the standards, everything will be ok. It's already gone too far that way.

Saddam is gone now. For all the blunders the current administration is being blamed for, the capture and execution of Saddam is not one. I don't believe that the current president is advocating lowering the bar. To the contrary.

 

The BJ was a red herring. He was in trouble for lying under oath in a deposition for the Paula Jones lawsuit. You guys took the bait. Everytime I hear someone mention the BJ as the crime, liberal or conservative, I re-evaluate my opinion of their intelligence. The whole thing was about his abuse of power, on a personal level, against those that worked for him or came into contact with him on a professional level.

 

Exactly how I feel about W, as well. Usurption of the document called the Constitution---now widening the searches of opeing one's mail. Abuse of power...

And don't give me that crap about "if you don't have anything to hide"...I fail to see that mentioned anywhere in the Bill Of Rights.

Tim C.

 

What does that have to do with what I wrote?

 

You said that Clinton was abusing his power; I feel the same way about the current prez...

Tim C.

 

That's not exactly what I said; but, you're entitled to your opinion on Bush. So far, that's all it is.

 

Yep---you have your opinion on the guy, I am entitled to mine---and never the twain shall meet!

 

As far as Bush goes, that may be true; but, not with Clinton. My statement there was dead on fact. You don't have to like it.

 

If you can't keep your vows to your family, who in their right mind would believe you capable of keeping your vows to your country?