I think that cops takedown technique is an example of america's youth being raised not respecting authority. I weep for the future.

 

It was an interesting video, and I think the cop was 100% correct in using that level of force when the guy did not show his hands. OK, maybe the cops method was risky, but it was a decision made in the heat of the moment and it worked out. I won't second guess the man.


That being said, I could not help but wonder how much media attention this episode would have received if the cops were white and the other folks in the video were black. Please note I am questioning society's and the media's response, NOT this cop.

Let's recap. Cop arrives at scene. First person he sees (of a different ethnic group than himself), he asks them why they are fighting. Seems the cop PROFILED that innocent bystander/helpful witness. The cop's initial reaction was that the man who was offering to help was actually one of the perps. Imagine the howls of protest if the races were reversed.

Then the cop sees the perp. He confides to the camera "He looks all amped up". Fact is the perp was basically comatose. Opposite of amped up. Did the cops attitude about race make him assume the perp was on drugs that would amp him up?

Then the cop applied force and threatened to taser the dude *rightfully so IMO*. But the fact is the guy did not backtalk or threaten the cop in any way.

Reverse the races and this video might be leading the national news.

 

^^ agree completly^^

 

The cop did what he needed to do, the guy couldn't listen to simple directions. .

Im with you DBD. .

 

Which is the reason most people on here are glad you aren't a cop.

 

That was a totally unwarranted attack. The guy's hands were visible. He had his thumbs in stuck in his pockets; the other four fingers were visible. At no time did he make any threatening moves, remarks or any other menacing actions. That cop should be charged with assault and battery. There is no excuse for behavior like that.

Joe

 

Keeping your hands in your pocket after a cop tells you to take them out, is a threatening act.


They have no idea if there is a weapon in there or not. The perps unwillingness to to co-operate is more then enough reason to arrest him.


If people dont like cops throwing them to the ground, Then take your hands out of your pockets and go stand by the hood of the car like the nice police officer tells you.

Granted, most cops these days would have nailed him with mace and the tazzer. But does it really matter how he gets taken down.

This wasnt a beating or unprovoked attack.

It was an arrest, and when some one refuses to show their hands. Its policy to go on the assumption that they DO have a weapon.

He was knocked down by force, flipped over, and arrested.

Law enforcement......The way God intended.

 

You know what? None of that came to my mind while I watched the video; but, I can't argue against it. You're probably right.

 

I'm not really impressed with the Officer's move, although it did the job with no one getting hurt. That being the important thing.

But if you go back to the video, and watch closely, you will see the suspect put his right hand back into his pocket just before the Officer acts. The Officer was actually a little slow. If a weapon had been in the pocket, we may have had a different outcome. An Officer must always assume a weapon is in the pocket if a suspect puts his hands there.

Slow, but a good decision and action from the Officer.

 

If the guy was so dangerous why did the first officer not already have him on the ground? The first officer was talking to the guy, neither one was yelling, it looked like it would be a peaceful end to the situation. Then the rouge cop shows up. Notice he said, "This guy looks amped up," when he was getting out of his car. How is a guy standing there talking to the original officer on scene "amped up"? For all we know the original officer has already checked the guy for weapons. He has no problems with where the guy's hands are. Next thing the rampaging officer choke slams the guy to the ground and continues to threaten him. This guy should not be a cop. He walked into the situation ready to be a bad *** and get some airtime on Cops. What he should get is jail time. Sure you can say, "He is a cop, you must listen to him." However, the police should be held to the strictest guidelines as far as the use of force. Nothing corrupts faster than power, and this guy was abusing his. This time it was just some kid on the street, what about next time? Remember Germany, at first it was, "I am the cop and you are Jewish. You must wear this armband. Later it turned to, "I am the SS and you are Jewish. Get into this gas chamber."

Joe

 

????? I dont even know where your coming from here???? Cops shouldnt be trusted??? Because of the Gestapo???

I dont think cops are on the verge of committing genocide in Vegas?





So what should he do next time? Just let the guy Ignore him?


When a cop tells you to do some thing, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.


You can file a complaint or even a lawsuit after words, but you cant just tell a cop "No" and ignore him.

When a cop tells you to so he can affect an arrest on you, you have to do it.

If you dont, he will make you do it.

Its not his job to talk you into it, Hes not a therapist or counsler.

Hes a law enforcement officer. If you want to play the tough guy with him, your going to get knocked around.

This wasnt a beating, It was a take down.

Sure its a bit violent, but how do you do it so that its not violent?

Shoot him with a tranquilizer dart?

I have no pitty for cops who think their badge gives them the right to do any thing they want.

But I also have no pitty for morons who have no respect for those who wear the badge.

The only thing this cop was doing,.........was his job.



Besides, any body who starts a fight in a McDonalds deserves a butt whooping.


Speaking of McDonalds....Did you guys see that sign?

That thing was totally pimp.

 

There were two cops there. The first one was calmly talking to the guy before the second cop even showed up. If he was so dangerous why did the first cop not already have him in cuffs, or at least be working on it? For all we know he had already been frisked. The first officer appeared to have the situation under control. He was calmly taking to the guy. The second cop was looking for a fight. He all but said that he was going to whip this kid's *** before he left the car. Watch the counter on the video. There was only 14 seconds from the first words the cop said until the guy was on the ground. Half of the time the guy was looking at the TV camera with a confused look on his face. He looked more like a deer in the headlights than anything else. Now put yourself in this situation. You have two guys talking to you, another guy with a camera and bright lights in your face and 10 seconds until you are to be assaulted. You are doing nothing violent, you are just standing there. The guy never even lifted his voice. This is police brutality; there was no reason to attack the guy. Finally once the guy was on the ground the cop was telling him to put his hands behind his back, yet the cop was holding both of his arms. I will admit, the kid probably needed his *** whipped. He looks like a punk, but the cop was in the wrong.

Joe

 

Yes, but look at the distance between the first officer. He is maintaining a tactical advantage until backup arrived. It's better to have two Officers effect an arrest than to put him in a one on one situation. Especially if the first Officer was considering the use of the Taser. Two Officers should be present. It also depends on Department policy regarding the use of the Taser in a complience situation vs. control. The Officer chose to go hands on first, but he had the option of going to Taser if the suspect did not comply, or resisted arrest.

 

Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool, than open it and prove to the world what kind of fool you are.

Calling this officer's actions brutality or unwarranted shows a complete lack of knowledge of the real world.

Watch close enough, you can even see that as he takes the suspect down, he catches his neck in his hand and keeps him from harm by arresting the impact of the back of his head.

This incident was the intersection of training, proper use of that training, and careful and well thought out tactics.

 

His asking the guy "why are you fighting" is a questioning technique used to find the truth. If he asked a guy "are you the one fighting?" It elicits a automatic response of "no, not me" or something to that effect. It's kind of rude, but effective. It's kind of like when they teach salesmen to say "how may I help you?" instead of "can I help you?" The cop may be racist, but not knowing the guy, or seeing more, I dont think I could jump to that conclusion. However, I think you are right on the money in that if the cop was white, and the perp black, the "Reverend" Jack-son and CNN would be all over it.