Need no....

Want yes!!!



Someone said on here before, I can't remember who it was. But I liked it.

Rule Number two, if at all possiable, be familiar with that gun.

 

Glock 30? Hmm Ill have to check that out. How big is that compared to the others im looking at? I really liked shooting .45 so if I can get it its a go. Im pretty much leaning towards Glock so now its a matter of choosing between the 26.36, and now 30 that has been recomended. the instructor showed me how to disasemble one, talk about easy! I was amaxed how simple it was. That was a big plus in its favor for sure. That and he mentioned parts being easy to order/repair so its looking good for the Glock...

Thanks again,

Luis S

 

I agree; however, smaller frame guns typically aren't very pleasant to shoot for long range sessions, and a gun that isn't comfortable to shoot won't get shot a lot. And without shooting it a lot, the familiararity won't develop.

Every gun has it's purpose; I've always been an advocate of using the largest frame handgun you can get away with for whatever the task at hand is. Probably explains why I carry a full size 1911 or a midsize Glock.

 

BennyHanna ,

I'll have to go check my reloading manual, I may very well be incorrect. If I am, sorry for the bad gouge. For comparisons sake I was shooting a G27 with extensions and a compact 1911.


Luis S,

Check out the G36 slimline. A Bro of mine picked on up and while I haven't fired it yet It felt good in the hand. Mo better than the typical glock.

 

In regards to .40 and .45 auto, I don't think it's so much the powder type or charge, it's the pressures and velocities the two cartridges operate at. .40 operates at higher pressures and velocities than the .45 auto typically does. .40 always seem to recoil the hardest to me out of all autoloading pistol rounds, except 10mm. .45 auto is more like a shove, whereas .40 feels like a sharp snap.

 

That's because the .40 is a neutered 10mm and why many 10mm aficionados call it the .40 Short & Wimpy.

 

Yes I have bought several weapons at gun shows. Theyare great places to look. The best deals are usually found within the first couple hours and the last couple hours. In the first hour or two there will be some great weapons going for super cheap. You just need to hurry. The last part of the last day, some will be open to giving a better deal on something just to get rid of it. But I've seen great deals all the way through.

I have a couple suggestions for buying at a gun show.

1. Go as early as possible in the show, and plan on being there for most of the day.

2. Don't buy the first weapon you see that you want. Look around and figure out who else has them and how much they want for it. (Also what happens with me... I'll find something else that I want more and can't buy due to funds or because its another pistol.)

3. Prices are negotiable. Don't be afraid to play one dealer against the other for the best price.

4. Consider brining cash for the purchase. Some dealers will charge 3-5% more for using a credit card.

Good luck searching.

 

The glock 30 is very small, falling in the subcompact class. I shoot better with it than the fullsize glocks I have tried. Again, my personal favorite is the full sized 1911 Kimber, but outside of the car carrying it is very difficult as it is a big gun.

And quintin, you are right, they are not pleasant to shoot for hours on end, but I'd usually just go through a 50-100 shells a night to develop my shooting without wearing out my hand and loosing my stability. I found that to greatly improve my accuracy (that and my swat buddy teaching me a few tricks)

 

Hey thanks for the gunshow tips BennyHanns. So like any show first and last rule apply. Good to know...

I myself also dont see spending more than 100 or so rounds at the range at any given time. Maybe 200 if I have a ****ty day at work.

We want to make a serious commitment to gun ownership. Were not in it for the cool factor alone. We want to be responsible and well educated owners. We dont want to wind up like Homer when he bought a gun on the Simpsons. Of course Id like to collect a few pieces but that will come in time.

Im also looking into the G36 Slimline. Just read a review tonight that praised it nicely. Gonna have to check some prices but that looks pretty sweet...

Thanks again guys!

Luis S

 

Sorry 98, have to disagree with you on this one. After a few hundred students on the range, I have found that sometimes you just have to go to a smaller frame for some women and men with smaller hands. If a good combat grip is not available, it's hard to control the recoil and manage magazines during reload. Some have trouble handling a double stack mag during a tactical reload. A single stack, or smaller frame is sometimes the way to go for some shooters.

I've shot a few weapons in my day, and carry a 226 concealed on a daily basis. Yea, I'm sorta big. Easy to hide a big frame weapon on a big frame.

As an instructor, the best advice I can give you is to practice. Regardless of the weapon you choose. A weapon is useless if you can't load, shoot, reload and shoot again without thinking. It must be instinct or you will get yourself or someone else injured or killed. If you carry concealed in a holster, plan on at least 3000 draws to become proficient. Any time I change holsters, which is only 3 times in the last 12 years, I will do about 500 dry fire, and 500 rds the first day on the range. Just for starters.

And please, do not carry if you are not sure that you can take the life of another person if you are justified in your actions. Sometimes it's best to just be a good witness. Especially if you have loved ones with you that could be hurt if you take action at the wrong time.

But if you take a CCW class all of that will be discussed.

Welcome to the world of gun ownership, as you can see, the choices and opinions are many.

good luck and let us know what you decide on.

We will be glad to tell you if you made a good choice or not.

 

Thanks expy. Looking forward to joining you guys as a gun owner. Dont worry CCW classes are in the future. As soon as I recover from this purchase it will be the first thing we do. The instructor said it Quite nicely " It an f'd up world out there now, and I rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."

We will practice till its second nature. As for size, hey were short so a hand cannon probably wouldnt work for us. Something the size of a 226 wouldnt be bad but it wouldnt be very concealable.

Thanks again guys,

Luis S

 

I don't know the first thing about their semi auto's, but my one and only brand new handgun purchase was for a Taurus 357 Magnum revolver.

I told the range owner I was looking for a gun that I could put a ton of rounds through without problems, was relatively cheap, but not a piece of crap. Without flinching he grabbed the Taurus and told me if I had any problems (other than minor adjustments) before I ran several thousands rounds through it, he would take it back.

So, the gun, a nylon holster, two speed loaders and box of cheap ammo coming to $299, I was convinced.

16 years later w/o so much as an adjustment, I can't complain.

SL

 

Thats good to hear snappy. I like the look of them and would definately consider one of thier revolvers as a backup gun. Might look into in more depth later. $300 sounds like a damn good deal for that gun. Anyone else care to chime in on Taurus autos? Pros cons?

Thanks again,

Luis S

 

One good thing about my .357 is the ability to shoot .38special rounds in it. Its cheaper on the wallet at the range. Now, you still have to be able to shoot .357 rounds as they react differently, but once you've got a handle on it economics do come into play. Its the whole reason I bought a P225 Sig (9mm) That way, I was paying 7.99 a box instead of the .45's 14.99 a box. And when you shoot 500-600 rounds a week, it gets expensive quick.

Of course, all of that has been negated for me as I have recently become an unarmed peasant at the hands of our legal system for the next 6 years and 7 months.

 

WTF?


Taurus revolvers are hit or miss from what I have heard on my board. Some people have had great experiences with them and love them, others had problems and hate them. I do like their ice blue finish though. For $300 I'd probably buy one and if I didn't like it I'd sell it or trade it in on something else. FYI trade in value, at least around here, is 60% of the blue book value.