Hey Jr. before you go spounting off, learn more than what is taught in Christian Sunday school. For your information I have spent many years in Islamic countries and have listened to Muslins tell religous stories. Many are the same as what is taught in the Old Testament (I know many of those stories in detail from memory thanks to 5 years in a Catholic school). Since I noticed the similarities I did research to discover the roots. Wouldn't you know it They all come from the same roots. I don't have the books I researched to learn this but Wiki sums it up rather nicely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

 

yea, sorry about coming off crude. I do that sometimes when I've had a couple of beers and sit at the computer.

Check this out: http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i07ab.html

and this:
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/

and this:
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/godvsallah.shtml

and this:
http://www.cephas-library.com/islam/..._vs_allah.html

You can observe several theological websites, libraries, all you want, and one source will tell you that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all have the same GOD but hold different concepts about HIM. Others will deny it. It is too subjective to announce they are one in the same. So, it can also come down to interpretation, once again. I've sat through plenty of Sunday school classes. Depending on which one you sit in will also demonstrate the seemingly endless list of predicitons on who will make it to heaven and how. We're not talking about the same diety. Allah is NOT the Christian God. Wiki won't change my mind.

Are you pre or post Vatican II Catholic? Traditionals believe that all those that still follow the POPE are heretics. I have an oblate (sp?) patient that related to me that when the Catholics split in the 1960s, the Pope said on his death bed, "I have opened the doors to the church, and the smoke of the devil has come in."

 

what I really hate about all this middle east crap is the fact that Iran and Syria both are publicly talking about wiping Israel from the map, and apparently the rest of the world is gonna grab a bag of and wait for it to happen.

I agree that the UN created this mess after giving the Jews their land, but bloody hell what were they supposed to do? After being persecuted to near extinction by several different powers for the last 2000-odd years, they needed someplace to call home.

The problem with this new world war is that it is against a fundy Islam mentality, and the fundies are doing a great job of gaining more support by making it seem like this is a war on Islam and Muslims in general. This war would not be away or easier if a Dem was in office or not: it may have been run differently, but it would most certainly still be here.

The reason this conflict has gone so awry is that so many nations are afraid to do what we did TOGETHER back in WWII. Join forces, take a few on the chin, and get the damn job done! Hitler seemed even more unstoppable than this Jihadist BS is back in the 30's. Entire nations capitulated in mere weeks of fighting. But when Britain, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Russia, etc etc etc put aside our differences and pointed our guns in the same direction, look what was accomplished!

Iran and Syria are the frikkin nations that need to be "disposed of" as their leaders say of Israel, but it could not be accomplished by any one nation alone. Not just a unified United States, but a UNIFIED WORLD effort needs to be displayed to show these morons that the world will not take ther crap anymore. When I go travelling to Europe next summer, I don't want to have to worry about taking any subways cuz some young "disadvantaged" UK muslim decides innocent people have to die, and that his problems are somehow caused by innocent civilians.

heres a shocking idea, one that i wish were implemented in my country: IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY COUNTRY'S POLICIES, GET THE $&%@ OUT!!! Don't try to change them or blame your crap on me, just pack your crap and get back to where you came from. I have no problems with multiculturism, but im sick of bending over backwards for minorities that do nothing more than get here and start whining about their economic situation.

Sorry about the length, but I'm tired of watching the world go to hell in a handbasket, and I think some of what I said could change some of that.

 

Excellent viewpoint. I wish more people worldwide felt that way.

I think the world is under attack by islamic extremist factions today and it will eventually be labeled as WWIII. It took an eyeopener to get everyone on the same page in WWII, what's it going to take this time? I don't want to find out and more needs to be done worldwide to nip this in the bud.

 

Yeah, the whole world needs to form a tag team and take turns pummeling the terrorists. It's too bad that ALL the non-terrorist nations can't see eye to eye and Unite!

 

Yeah, we totally outnumber them. If united we could end this lunacy in no time. I'm sick and tired of the good old US of A having to mop things up when the rest of the world watches standing idly by.

 

I think the major problem today facing the world is free nations have too much freedom without any responsibility or accountability and if they don’t start exercising responsibility and accountability they will all, America included, lose most, if not all, their freedoms.

What I mean by that is with to much freedom without responsibility and accountability is too many people worry about how others “feel” or what others will “think” when they take responsibility and are accountable.

If America and the other free nations actually have responsibility and accountability they would have let Israel do what ever then needed to do to wipe out the terrorist in Lebanon AND America and the other free nations would have joined Israel for one major @ss whooping on the terrorist in Lebanon.

America and other free nations would NOT have worried about what the rest of the world thought and they would not have worried about how many dead people, innocent or not, in Lebanon showed up on the cable news because they would have completely blacked out ALL news from being broadcasted until after the fact like in WWII.

After America and the other free nations finished up within a week or two they would have told Iran and the other nut case nations they have 72 hours to comply with our demands or they would be nuked, heavily nuked unlike anything seen before.

War is simple, there is a WINNER and a LOSER there is no in between, the loser does exactly what the winner dictates or they DIE it don’t get much simpler then that.

What happens is you have too many people that have no clue about their freedom, have no responsibility or accountability for their freedom and “feel” and “think” too much, like Howard Dean and the other nut case liberals here and around the world. Until you silence or eliminate people like Howard Dean your freedoms are doomed to be lost forever and that my friends is the REAL reason we are in the situation we are in.

Freedom is NOT free, people die for others to keep it and those who wish to keep it MUST be responsible and accountable or they too will LOSE it forever and those who died for us to be free will have died in vain all because too many people have no responsibility or accountability, but rather because they “feel” and “think” too much regardless what reality really tells them.

 

That is the beautiful truth.

 

Right you are...

Sixty-three years ago, **** Germany had overrun almost all of Europe and
hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat, and had sunk more
than four hundred British ships in their convoys between England and
America for food and war materials.

At that time the U.S. was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and most
Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war.

Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and in outrage Congress
unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following day on Germany, which
had not yet attacked us. It is unfortunate that the US ignored the threats and warnings that Pearl Harbor was eminent. It was a dicey thing. We had few allies. France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly aligned itself with its German occupiers. Germany was certainly not an ally, as Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe. Japan was not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all of Asia. Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading Canada and Mexico, as launching pads to get into the United States over our northern and southern borders, after they finished gaining control of Asia and Europe. America's only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada, Australia, and Russia. That was about it.

All of Europe, from Norway to Italy, except Russia in the east, was already under the **** heel. America was certainly not prepared for war. America had drastically downgraded most of its military forces after WWI and throughout the depression, so that at the outbreak of WW2, army units were training with broomsticks because they didn't have guns, and cars with "tank" painted on the doors because they didn't have real tanks. And a huge chunk of our navy had just been sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.

Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donation of $600
million in gold bullion in the Bank of England, that was actually the property of Belgium, given by Belgium to England to carry on the war when Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact). Actually, Belgium surrendered on one day, because it was unable to oppose the German invasion, and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble the next day just to prove they could. Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of staggering shipping losses and the near-decimation of its air force in the Battle of Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only because Hitler made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively minor threat that could be dealt with later, and first turning his attention to Russia, at a time when England was on the verge of collapse, in the late summer of 1940.

Ironically, Russia saved America's butt by putting up a desperate fight for
two years, until the U.S. got geared up to begin hammering away at Germany.
Russia lost something like 24 million people in the sieges of Stalingrad
and Moscow alone... 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly civilians,
but also more than a MILLION soldiers.

Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would have been able to focus his entire
war effort against the Brits, then America. And the ***** could possibly have
won the war. All of this is to illustrate that turning points in history are often
dicey things. And now, we find ourselves at another one of those key moments in history. So, the last thing we need in office is a liberal p_ssy.

 

Very interesting. So much could be different now. I hope we get somebody with ***** in the Whitehouse next election. Don't vote for Hillary or we're doomed. She might have *****, I dunno. You never can tell these days.

 

I think it's time to get serious.
We should NUKE every country that doesn't have the common courtesy to speak English.

This does not include Mexico or parts of Canada.
I would not want to NUKE either country.
The wind might shift and we could lose half of Texas or some of Minnesota.
Coventional warheads only for Non-English speaking countries within a dangerous blast radius.

Now that's a foreign policy every red blooded american can get behind

Even Bush could figure out the game plan:
"Cheney, did you understand that feller? Me neither, get the damn Air Force on the phone."

(Of course the downside is after we blow everybody up, some of you are going to have to pick vegetables.....for $2 an hour)

(Oh yeah, and some of you will have to work DELLs help desk, for $1.25 an hour.)

 

Lol.

 

YIKES!!!


Whoa. You scared me there for a moment. Based strictly on the citizenship of most of the population here, So. Cal is actually a part of Mexico!

(Just look at that billboard from last year where the local Mexican TV station crossed out CA and declared LA a part of Mexico)





Which is $2 and @1.25 more an hour than the farmers out of work and the customer service folks who are out of work these days.

Of course, Shrub would say all those folks who got $1.25 per hour jobs are now working, the employment numbers would be up as a result and so that would mean the economy is booming even more than it is. (wink, wink)

 

Well, I guess we could have welfare for all. Kind of like healthcare for all, right?

The government has tons of money. When they run out, for all the hand outs they give, they can just make more. Entitlements are like Doritios.

Many of us have worked hard so that we aren't in the "unskilled labor" catagory, and should be fairly compensated for that hard work. Why is it that we think unskilled workers should be highly compensated when they really haven't put much effort into learning a skill? Even more puzzeling to me is why we feel that it's necessary to financially support people who make many poor life decisions. Personal accountability only applies to thoes who are already self supportive?

 

I don't know about all that.
All I know is after we vaporize all of the non-English speaking peoples, the vegetables still got to get picked.
And the going rate is $2 per hour.