Ok, yeah I see the issue here. Ok, so I dont have an eagle eye. Anyone want me to be in the jury when they are on trial?

One cuff came off and the dude started acting like an idiot.

Police officers are good to go in my book.

 

I can't even find the video.

 

http://www.cnn.com/

Under "Watch Free Video"

Look for the one titled: 3. Attack caught on tape (1:39)

 

Think you can make a post without contradicting yourself?

 

OK, there must be more than one video, because in the video I saw, the cops were dead wrong. If Rodney King got $35,000,000 then this boy needs millions too.

I didn't see the boy "push" a cop, "shove" a cop, or go for the cop's weapon. If he had pushed or shoved him, it was "somewhat" warranted, the cop had no reason to be all up on the guy like he was... That's provoking to anyone. Most people's normal reaction would be a shove (intensity varying) and the wordws, "Get off me, *********er!". Perhaps that's EXACTLY what was said in that elevator... Even if it was, that's no reason for a "PROFESSIONAL" cop to tear off and whip that suspects *** like that. Not for "saying" something, because from where I'm sitting, I didn't see him "do" anything...

Now if, IF, he'd gone for my service pistol, then yeah- my life's in danger, and if I have an opening, you're gonna get some smashing rights to the face, the head take-down, kicks to the gut, and a few stomps. As they told us in the Army, "It's better to be judged by 5 (12 in the civilian world) than carried by 6." From here, I have no reason to believe the police officer's life or well-being was in any danger.

From my point of view, the police were wrong.

Police are one of the last lines of defense in the community, and if we have cops that will take action like this; then perhaps men like this don't need to be police officers...


I've been stopped, weapon drawn on me, and detained by the police. I've had my car searched- it wasn't a pleasant experience. I didn't like it, and even though I spoke in a kocky way, you can believe I let them do whatever they wanted to do to my car... Ironically, the Jr officer, was a guy I was stationed with in Arizona; yet they still tore my stuff apart...


Link: http://www.nbc5.com/news/9553856/det...=chi&psp=news#

Why was it so hard for someone to post a link?
Look at this, and if you still think this guy deserved this ***-whipping, then maybe he isn't the only one (who needs an ***-whipping).

I'm all for kicking a violent detainee's (or terrorist with information) ***, but- I saw no evidence of that here.

 

The guy definitely shoved the cop and was wrong.

The cops were definitely wrong.

It happens all the time and I'm ok with it on the street if you are in a dangerous situation but this was excessive and I almost always side with the cops.

 

"Homey don't... Oh DAMN!"

 

Its hard to say exactly how it started, But I do know this much.

The suspect did give the first push {didnt seem to be much of one, though}.....But its obvious that the officer involved was extrememly confrontational.

The officers four Punches to the suspects face was almost instant.

Punching a suspect in the face...... Isnt restraining. Its assault.

That guy got punched and kneed in the face 6 times.


While the guy is obviously a punk, The officers in the clip went over board.

Which ones???? The one in cuffs, or the ones with badges????

 

I haven’t watched the video yet so no comment on that yet. But I think the reason the cops don’t get any respect is because the way most of them act. I know every time on the highway there is always at least one highway patrolman that feels he is above the law and can drive however fast he wants. NO lights on then he doesn’t have the right to be exceeding the speed limit by 20+ mph. Then of course there’s the one that likes to sit dark on the shoulder, of the just off the white line on a blind corner on the mass pike. Its even worse when your following an officer that cant find the turn signal switch on the car, or running red lights. I mean come on how can I respect someone that is suppose to enforce the law when they cant follow it. We just a similar case here in Albany were the police officers drug a suspect out of the back of the patty wagon, and smashed his head on the step and the floor of the van and then the drug him across the concrete. All while cuffed and shackled.

This is just my .02.

 

Thanks.
Now that I've seen it it looks like the accused said something to the cop because almost as soon as he got his cuffs taken off the cop started walking towards the accused with that "I'm tougher than you" strut and when the cop got in the face of the accused it looks like there was a slight push by him. Definately nothing that warrented what happened next though. Especially since even after he was down the cops continued to knee and punch him.

 

and ALL criminals feel they are "above the law". If I acted like the ******* suspect, I would deserve a beating. How can we judge someone's actions and say they are wrong, when we were not in the situation or have our life on the line? If I was a cop, and I was attempting to be hospitible(not saying he is or isn't, no audio) and then my suspect attacked me!! he'd be lucky if punching was the only thing he got...

 

I think he must have said something bad about the F150.

 

Like I said I haven’t seen the video. I was comment on the lack of respect for lawman. If they acted like a professional peace officer then video like this wouldn’t exist. Now if the officer’s life is in danger the yes he has a right to defend himself.

 

It's the lack of respect that causes crime.. I understand there are those "bad" cops out there, I wont deny that. But, how far does an officer need to let a suspect go before he should feel his life is in danger? Again if I was a cop in this situation, I would have acted the same way. I want to stay alive. I dont see a direct threat in the video, but who's to say if the cop HADNT fought back that he would still be here to defend himself in court and apparently lose vs. the suspect being on America's Most wanted for killing a peace officer who let the suspect go just a tad to far.

 

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I know I have a hair-trigger temper... I can restrain it 99% of the time, but sometimes I find myself tripping, over some little isht. Maybe that's what happened here. Maybe these cops were good cops 99% of the time, but this 1 time (caught on camera) may end a career that probably doesn't warrant ending. Public outcry will probably cost them both their jobs.

If I was their boss, (Especially of the one doing the most hitting) I'd look to see if this had happened before, and if it had- his **** would be looking for a job, if I didn't have charges pressed on him. The one watching would be in deep Kimchee too. We all know how well cops do in prison.

Like I said, I have a temper too, and I never know when something may spark it. I inquired about joining the Killeen PD, and later DPS- but fortunately EDS called me first, and I stayed in my true firld (Telecom). If I had been there, that little nudge may have been all it took for me to tear into that guy; but, I'd hope my training, and years of professional conduct would short-circuit my temper long enough to regain my cool. But, if it hadn't, and that little nudge resulted in the same kind of ***-whipping for this kid, then I know I'd deserve whatever I got. Afterall, I've been entrusted with protecting the public. This suspect is the public; assh**e though he may be; so he should also expect protection while in custody.

For me, I still say this was a tad too far.

This is why everyone shouldn't be a cop...
This is why everyone shouldn't be a cop...
This is why everyone shouldn't be a cop...
This is why everyone shouldn't be a cop...
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