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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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A "heroes" welcome...

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/16/D8I9KJA80.html

Who could ever complain about Gitmo, look how we treat our own!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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No Problem, it's WAR

I could care less if the Marines killed a whole block of Iraqui's
Of course I also think Lt. William Calley (sp) as well as all of his troops should have been decorated for their part in the Mai Lai Incident. I refuse to call it a massacre!!! This is a war, and we should not be fighting a war with one hand tied behind their backs. Got a problem with enlistment numbers, no wonder.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Anyone here want to contact the ACLU...I'm sure they'll be right on top of this...
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Pentagon cares more about it's budget than it's troops.

A pilot is easily replaced. His F-16 isn't.

The turret explosion on the USS New Jersey and it's Naval/Pentagon investigation still burns my butt today.

Maybe one day the Pentagon will understand when you put men/women in war conditions there will be huge mental impacts on troops and it can be catastrophic. Writing rules are one thing. Trying to adhere to them in a life and death situation is another.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 6T6CPE
Pentagon cares more about it's budget than it's troops.

A pilot is easily replaced. His F-16 isn't.

The turret explosion on the USS New Jersey and it's Naval/Pentagon investigation still burns my butt today.

Maybe one day the Pentagon will understand when you put men/women in war conditions there will be huge mental impacts on troops and it can be catastrophic. Writing rules are one thing. Trying to adhere to them in a life and death situation is another.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by USAFPATRIOT1
Anyone here want to contact the ACLU...I'm sure they'll be right on top of this...


the sad part is, the ACLU would be turned away at the door. Why? The door would be answered by Marines, not politicians that bend over.

Those service men don't even have the constitution protecting them. For some reason, military law supercedes basic constitutional rights.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 6T6CPE
Pentagon cares more about it's budget than it's troops.

A pilot is easily replaced. His F-16 isn't.

The turret explosion on the USS New Jersey and it's Naval/Pentagon investigation still burns my butt today.

Maybe one day the Pentagon will understand when you put men/women in war conditions there will be huge mental impacts on troops and it can be catastrophic. Writing rules are one thing. Trying to adhere to them in a life and death situation is another.

Originally Posted by USAFPATRIOT1


Quick someone write it down, take a picture, whatever.... 6T6CPE and USAPATRIOT agree on something...
 

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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Those service men don't even have the constitution protecting them. For some reason, military law supercedes basic constitutional rights
By the book, they do have all the rights that you and I have.

But the reality is, when you are in the military, you are owned.

The Commanding Officer of a unit has an unbelievable amount of authority over his troops.

Until I retired and went to work in the civilian world, I had no idea.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Lariet4x4
Quick someone write it down, take a picture, whatever.... 6T6CPE and USAPATRIOT agree on something...
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by expy03
By the book, they do have all the rights that you and I have.

But the reality is, when you are in the military, you are owned.

The Commanding Officer of a unit has an unbelievable amount of authority over his troops.

Until I retired and went to work in the civilian world, I had no idea.


exactly.

In a military court, you are guilty until proven innocent. There are no ACLU or bleeding hearts to see that you are not being beaten on a daily basis while in a military jail.


Which is sad considering these guys are risking their lives to protect "innocent until proven guilty"
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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It is a shame....our troops deserve the benefit of the doubt whenever possible.

This is one reason why I can confidently support our troops and not their leadership. (don't mean to derail this thread)
 
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