Josiah on ebay??
Damn, what the hell did I miss?
One day i see Pismo beach pics and the next day I see a couple of people jumpin all over Josiah like he stole their lunch money or something.
Josiah, who cares about Highway Gas mileage, whatever it takes to sell your truck, right? I wouldnt even waste my time typing a reply....
One day i see Pismo beach pics and the next day I see a couple of people jumpin all over Josiah like he stole their lunch money or something.
Josiah, who cares about Highway Gas mileage, whatever it takes to sell your truck, right? I wouldnt even waste my time typing a reply....
Originally Posted by roushlimited
OK first off I'm not posting this to bash Penguin or Josiah. But I definitely don't agree with this statement and if I'm wrong with my way of thinking and misread this please correct me.
How many of those 135,000 (or whatever) are actually driven on the highway in comparison to city/local driving? (If you're even close to 30% highway, then you are the vast exception. Most people log their miles on local roads, which involve plenty of starting and stopping) How many of those miles were logged at exactly 55mph? Were there any sharp inclines or declines involved? Were you using the air conditioner during any of these miles? How much weight was in the vehicle? All these factor into gas mileage.
My entire point here is that the potential buyer of that truck will most likely not be driving it at exactly 55mph, on flat pavements, without the use of air conditioner through a majority of the vehicle's remaining life... Therefore, the claimed 19 MPG bears very little importance and is misleading in nature. If they take that claim at face value, they will be vastly disappointed...
Of course there will be exceptions where people drive 200 miles per day on the highway, who may never speed, and never use the A/C.
Originally Posted by PenguinFX4
My entire point here is that the potential buyer of that truck will most likely not be driving it at exactly 55mph, on flat pavements, without the use of air conditioner through a majority of the vehicle's remaining life... Therefore, the claimed 19 MPG bears very little importance and is misleading in nature. If they take that claim at face value, they will be vastly disappointed...
You're on a damn mission to prove I'm misleading the buyer. At 55mph you do not need the A/C...roll your window down. In fact, if I'm out to mislead the buyer then they won't even have a working A/C so trust me, their windows will be down...and presto, no gas mileage lost. The buyer will get the 19mpg+ I paid for in mods, I assure you. Just let it go, please.
Originally Posted by PenguinFX4
Let's say you keep your F150 until it has approximately 135,000 miles on the odometer (or 85,000 or 340,000).
How many of those 135,000 (or whatever) are actually driven on the highway in comparison to city/local driving? (If you're even close to 30% highway, then you are the vast exception. Most people log their miles on local roads, which involve plenty of starting and stopping) How many of those miles were logged at exactly 55mph? Were there any sharp inclines or declines involved? Were you using the air conditioner during any of these miles? How much weight was in the vehicle? All these factor into gas mileage.
My entire point here is that the potential buyer of that truck will most likely not be driving it at exactly 55mph, on flat pavements, without the use of air conditioner through a majority of the vehicle's remaining life... Therefore, the claimed 19 MPG bears very little importance and is misleading in nature. If they take that claim at face value, they will be vastly disappointed...
Of course there will be exceptions where people drive 200 miles per day on the highway, who may never speed, and never use the A/C.
How many of those 135,000 (or whatever) are actually driven on the highway in comparison to city/local driving? (If you're even close to 30% highway, then you are the vast exception. Most people log their miles on local roads, which involve plenty of starting and stopping) How many of those miles were logged at exactly 55mph? Were there any sharp inclines or declines involved? Were you using the air conditioner during any of these miles? How much weight was in the vehicle? All these factor into gas mileage.
My entire point here is that the potential buyer of that truck will most likely not be driving it at exactly 55mph, on flat pavements, without the use of air conditioner through a majority of the vehicle's remaining life... Therefore, the claimed 19 MPG bears very little importance and is misleading in nature. If they take that claim at face value, they will be vastly disappointed...
Of course there will be exceptions where people drive 200 miles per day on the highway, who may never speed, and never use the A/C.
Josiah did disclose in his e bay posting that the 19mpg's WAS at 55mph. Any prospective buyer that thinks he is going to get that at 70 is crazy. I know Josiah and don't think that he is trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes at all, he's just making a statement on his experiences with the performance of his truck. If anybody takes the 19mpg's as written in stone and that no matter what their driving habits may be they will still get it then they have a lot of learning in the automotive department to be done. On that note I am skeptical(or jealous
)of the 19mpgs myself. But I'm not bashing anybody and I know Josiah would be more than happy to show me how he does it if that's the case. I think the lines just got a little crossed here and people weren't understanding where the other was coming from and then the insults started and from that point no one wanted to hear it either.I just turned 3k on my truck and probably around 2k of that have been highway miles, I realize I may be in the minority here but that was the point of my first post disputing the fact that highway mileage was totally useless.
I think everybody here (except kelmvor
) has made valid points arguing their particular point and if the insults were taken out of it I think the picture would be a little clearer.Mike
In light of the past few clarifications by Josiah, I concede that his statement may not have been misleading in nature.
I would just caution to the fact that a potential buyer may "misinterpret" that statement. That's why we live in a "buyer beware" environment, right? it's up to the consumer to determine their own priorities and thus make an intellegent decision based on those preferences.
Agreed?
Furthermore, I bare no ill feelings regarding the subject and do hope he sells his truck for whatever he determines to be his minimum requirement!
I'm just more skeptical in general...
I would just caution to the fact that a potential buyer may "misinterpret" that statement. That's why we live in a "buyer beware" environment, right? it's up to the consumer to determine their own priorities and thus make an intellegent decision based on those preferences.
Agreed?
Furthermore, I bare no ill feelings regarding the subject and do hope he sells his truck for whatever he determines to be his minimum requirement!
I'm just more skeptical in general...
Originally Posted by RED WING NUT
I have a legitimate question. When you list something on ebay, and you want a certain amount for it, why don't you start the bidding at that point? Why start it lower and put a reserve amount that has to be reached anyway? Just wondering. 

Good luck on the sale, but if you REALLY want to sell it.. I would pull all the mods and put it back to stock. You can then sell the mods and recover some money for them plus get the same or even a little more for your truck. Good luck!
Originally Posted by -TXF150-
Josiah, what kind of MPG do you get while doing city driving???
City MPG is apparently completely irrelevant to this discussion.... When I get around to selling my truck, I'll find a 10 mile long hill and roll it down, then I'll put an ad on ebay claiming 60 mpg......
I get 16 all day long any driving and putting my foot in it around town(thx edge level 3) at 50 in my truck my edge IMPG stays up there at like 26mpg. Even if he doenst get 19 who cares unless you are going to buy it then hold him up to his 100$. I am a complete outsider and not buddy buddy with either and I see this whole posting as dumb it started out as just asking why its on ebay to this long who cares battle. Yes I think he should leave the offroading pics up to let the buyer see what he has done with it as to not decieve them but other then that let his listing be. PS I traded my Maxima to get this truck and a year befor I sold it i was in a BAD accident the car got a whole new front clip and a lot of other stuff and all 15k in damage never showed up on carfax as of the time when I traded it. to protect my self I told the dealer ship it was in an accident and took that hit but that i didnt know how bad because it was my stepmoms when it happened then she gave it to me, which it true but I knew how bad. I feel bad but s*it if the insurance company wasnt cheap and totaled it this POS car wouldnt be out on the market for some onlucky person.
Accoarding to my Edge my truck gets mileage in the high 30s in town....when coming up to a redlight and my foot completely off the gas. Thats the same thing Josiah is saying...it can get it at a specific time under specific circumstances!



