Say what?!?!?! (GM outscores Honda?!)
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Say what?!?!?! (GM outscores Honda?!)
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Which new cars are the most problem free? If you answered Japanese-built cars you would be right, but the domestics are also getting their act together, especially General Motors.
The latest J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey, which rates new vehicles according to the number of problems reported during the first three months of ownership, puts Toyota's Lexus luxury division at the top of the heap, showing the lowest number of problems with its vehicles of any major automaker. Owners of the Lexus SC430 retractable hardtop sport coupe reported just 54 problems per 100 vehicles sold, compared to an industry average of 118 problems per 100 cars.
Overall, Lexus vehicles averaged 81 problems per 100 vehicles sold, an impressive score and substantially better than General Motors' Cadillac luxury division (104 problems per 100 vehicles), Mercedes-Benz (104 problems per 100 vehicles) and Ford Motor Company's Lincoln luxury division (113 problems per 100 vehicles).
Jaguar and BMW also earned top marks for quality, according to the J.D. Power IQS report, with 88 and 95 reported problems per 100 vehicles reported, respectively.
Surprisingly, Honda and its luxury line, Acura, didn't do so well, with 112 and 116 problems per 100 vehicles reported. In other words, new owners of Honda and Acura vehicles reported more problems with their cars than new owners of Cadillac (104 problems) and Buick (100 problems) vehicles.
This is the first time in recent memory that GM vehicles have outscored Honda and Acura on build quality as measured by the number of problems reported by consumers.
Say it isn't so!!!
Which new cars are the most problem free? If you answered Japanese-built cars you would be right, but the domestics are also getting their act together, especially General Motors.
The latest J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey, which rates new vehicles according to the number of problems reported during the first three months of ownership, puts Toyota's Lexus luxury division at the top of the heap, showing the lowest number of problems with its vehicles of any major automaker. Owners of the Lexus SC430 retractable hardtop sport coupe reported just 54 problems per 100 vehicles sold, compared to an industry average of 118 problems per 100 cars.
Overall, Lexus vehicles averaged 81 problems per 100 vehicles sold, an impressive score and substantially better than General Motors' Cadillac luxury division (104 problems per 100 vehicles), Mercedes-Benz (104 problems per 100 vehicles) and Ford Motor Company's Lincoln luxury division (113 problems per 100 vehicles).
Jaguar and BMW also earned top marks for quality, according to the J.D. Power IQS report, with 88 and 95 reported problems per 100 vehicles reported, respectively.
Surprisingly, Honda and its luxury line, Acura, didn't do so well, with 112 and 116 problems per 100 vehicles reported. In other words, new owners of Honda and Acura vehicles reported more problems with their cars than new owners of Cadillac (104 problems) and Buick (100 problems) vehicles.
This is the first time in recent memory that GM vehicles have outscored Honda and Acura on build quality as measured by the number of problems reported by consumers.
Say it isn't so!!!
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
JD Power & Associates
Which new cars are the most problem free? If you answered Japanese-built cars you would be right, but the domestics are also getting their act together, especially General Motors.
The latest J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey, which rates new vehicles according to the number of problems reported during the first three months of ownership, puts Toyota's Lexus luxury division at the top of the heap, showing the lowest number of problems with its vehicles of any major automaker. Owners of the Lexus SC430 retractable hardtop sport coupe reported just 54 problems per 100 vehicles sold, compared to an industry average of 118 problems per 100 cars.
Overall, Lexus vehicles averaged 81 problems per 100 vehicles sold, an impressive score and substantially better than General Motors' Cadillac luxury division (104 problems per 100 vehicles), Mercedes-Benz (104 problems per 100 vehicles) and Ford Motor Company's Lincoln luxury division (113 problems per 100 vehicles).
Jaguar and BMW also earned top marks for quality, according to the J.D. Power IQS report, with 88 and 95 reported problems per 100 vehicles reported, respectively.
Surprisingly, Honda and its luxury line, Acura, didn't do so well, with 112 and 116 problems per 100 vehicles reported. In other words, new owners of Honda and Acura vehicles reported more problems with their cars than new owners of Cadillac (104 problems) and Buick (100 problems) vehicles.
This is the first time in recent memory that GM vehicles have outscored Honda and Acura on build quality as measured by the number of problems reported by consumers.
Say it isn't so!!!
Which new cars are the most problem free? If you answered Japanese-built cars you would be right, but the domestics are also getting their act together, especially General Motors.
The latest J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey, which rates new vehicles according to the number of problems reported during the first three months of ownership, puts Toyota's Lexus luxury division at the top of the heap, showing the lowest number of problems with its vehicles of any major automaker. Owners of the Lexus SC430 retractable hardtop sport coupe reported just 54 problems per 100 vehicles sold, compared to an industry average of 118 problems per 100 cars.
Overall, Lexus vehicles averaged 81 problems per 100 vehicles sold, an impressive score and substantially better than General Motors' Cadillac luxury division (104 problems per 100 vehicles), Mercedes-Benz (104 problems per 100 vehicles) and Ford Motor Company's Lincoln luxury division (113 problems per 100 vehicles).
Jaguar and BMW also earned top marks for quality, according to the J.D. Power IQS report, with 88 and 95 reported problems per 100 vehicles reported, respectively.
Surprisingly, Honda and its luxury line, Acura, didn't do so well, with 112 and 116 problems per 100 vehicles reported. In other words, new owners of Honda and Acura vehicles reported more problems with their cars than new owners of Cadillac (104 problems) and Buick (100 problems) vehicles.
This is the first time in recent memory that GM vehicles have outscored Honda and Acura on build quality as measured by the number of problems reported by consumers.
Say it isn't so!!!
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Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
I hope thats true. GM needs our help too and it looks like there on the right track now. I hate seeing this foreign crap people buy.
Your still an idiot Matt. get over it bro, wake up and see the light. Foreign "crap" as you call it have been making a better product for some time. I have faith that American car compaines will catch up and surpass the "crappy" foreign ( my toyota has 50,000 trouble free miles on it) counterparts soon enough. You live and learn!!.
I drive 60 miles each way each day 6-7 days a week. I use the toyota rav4 because its 4wd, gets 28-30 miles to the gallon,(show me anything else out there that does the same with 4x4) has had 0 issues, has plenty of pep, and while it's a "crappy" toyota its dam dependable. Do the math matt...
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this just goes to show you, the public is nothing but a bunch of sheep(easily hipnotized).....
look deep into my eyes and repeat after me......
hondas are great
hondas are great
hondas are great
you are now under my complete power
who makes the best cars?
what do you think they would say!?!
maybe if the public would wake up and look at real data and stop being brainwashed by commericlas they would understand that honda and toyota cars do break !! do they have a service department? they don't call it the scheduled maintenence department do they? i rest my case....
this just goes to show you "perception is everything". how do you think dodge sells so many trucks??? "that thing gotta hemi" ..... that's how.
wake up folks. don't swallow the junk the media shovels at us. lets think for ourselves.
oaw
look deep into my eyes and repeat after me......
hondas are great
hondas are great
hondas are great
you are now under my complete power
who makes the best cars?
what do you think they would say!?!
maybe if the public would wake up and look at real data and stop being brainwashed by commericlas they would understand that honda and toyota cars do break !! do they have a service department? they don't call it the scheduled maintenence department do they? i rest my case....
this just goes to show you "perception is everything". how do you think dodge sells so many trucks??? "that thing gotta hemi" ..... that's how.
wake up folks. don't swallow the junk the media shovels at us. lets think for ourselves.
oaw
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Originally Posted by oscar_a_wiggy
honda and toyota cars do break !! do they have a service department? they don't call it the scheduled maintenence department do they? i rest my case....
oaw
oaw
Your not kidding.... Honda's are NOT what people think they are. We have 2 of them. an Acura Legend and a Honda accord. My god if it's not one thing wrong with them, its another! Theres always someone outside working either one of those 2 cars we have. Today we found out the Acura now as a Leaky Head gasket, and every light you can imagine in the Honda accord in the dash is on (check engine light, tranny light blinking, radiator has cracked now 3 freeken times and the list goes on and on. I'll never ever EVER buy a Honda no way! Even a buddy of mine has an 02 Honda Civic with just over 15K on it and it has had it's problems as well. I've yet to see or known of someone personally that has a Honda that has not had something Major go wrong with it.
I don't really know about Toyota though, no one I know owns one and we don't own those in our family for good reason though. I really don't know how dependable they are, and really I can care less anyway since I won't ever buy Jap cars and trucks. Toyota doesn't even make anything that I would even be Interested in anyway I don't care how dependable they are.
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Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
I hope thats true. GM needs our help too and it looks like there on the right track now. I hate seeing this foreign crap people buy.
You’re the perfect example of poor quality at Ford. I don’t think you’ve owned a Ford yet that wasn’t infested with problems…
Ford occupied the middle ground between Dodge and Chrysler with a so-so score of 127.
Dodge – Best
Ford – Not so good
Chrysler - SUCKS
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Not only that, but didn't the last Acura "Legend" roll off the assembly line in 1996? I mean damn; it's 10 years old... It's time for stuff to start breaking...
But, there are a number of people at my job still driving 1991, 1992, 1992 Honda Accords to work, and one guy with a Schweet 2-door Legend, that is in pristine condition; and fixed up very nicely...
Sometimes you pick a lemon (I picked two, and they were both GM's) but, sometimes, it's the owner- because since I left GM for Nissan (March 11, 1997), I have not had another unreliable vehicle (1997 - Present)
But, there are a number of people at my job still driving 1991, 1992, 1992 Honda Accords to work, and one guy with a Schweet 2-door Legend, that is in pristine condition; and fixed up very nicely...
Sometimes you pick a lemon (I picked two, and they were both GM's) but, sometimes, it's the owner- because since I left GM for Nissan (March 11, 1997), I have not had another unreliable vehicle (1997 - Present)