Of course they did....they chose not to ban it in their business....

So now lets say You see that the market is ripe for a smoke free business.

You open across the street from the smoking place....

People who hate smoking will jump to your place....you will make more money and the smoking place will lose money.

Freedom, personal choice, and capitalism could fix this problem.

Repeal all those smoking laws today and see how competition would work it out.

Some places allow smoking some wouldnt...as consumers we choose which place to go and everyone is happy.

Rather than putting the responsibility on the owners and consumers we wuss out and have the govt do it for us.

This is a becoming a land of pansies...crying about this or that....and passing laws or suing to get their way. (BTW this isnt directed at anyone here just our society as a whole)

 

I say it like this. If they want to ban anything it should be talking on a damn mobile phone while driving. I CANT avoid that, but I can avoid smoke by leaving.

I agree with vader. I dont smoke. I quit about 3 years ago or something like that. When I am around smoke and it bothers me, I simply move or leave. IMO it's not right to tell someone else what to do with their lungs.

 

it means, you had the right not to choose to go to that place of business if it bothered you so much.

I am a smoker (flame suit on) but I have CHOSEN to not go back to some bars because they were/are too smokey!!

 

But every single restaurant I went to back before legislation allowed smoking. Every single one. I was therefore forced to breath secondhand smoke or never go out to a nice dinner.

Oh and don't forget; my insurance goes up cause the insurance company has to cover the cost of people who smoke and get lung cancer or the like.

 

so going out to have a nice dinner is a right?

as well as the people who are overweight that have diseases and complications from that. Should the government step in and inform restaraunts that they now have a weight limit for their patrons, and anyone over a set weight will not be allowed to eat in their restaraunt??

 

Did I say that? Let me look....................still looking.........................still looking....................No, I didn't. Wow. Good post there.

 

all I was saying is, your version of a nice dinner and mine are 2 different things. my nice dinner involves lighting a cigarette after my meal, that is why I choose to go to restaraunts that allow smoking.

 

Well my nice dinner involves a lot of belching and a lot of farting. Wonder where I should go eat tonight.

 

My hearing is being impaired by loud aftermarket exhaust and music boom boxes I encounter in traffic.

There should only be stock exhausts and stock radios allowed on Public roadways. Any attempt to increase decibels is infringing upon my Rights and the health of MY hearing.

Do what you want in your own garage or private property but, when you are on the PUBLIC roadway, I am forced to share with you, a complete ban is the only answer.

I know this will won't happen (yet).
Let's get the smokers first,
then we'll go after anyone who has ever posted in the Audio or Exhaust forums.

 

Waffle House

 

On the 2nd hand smoke thing: My wife and her bros and sis's grew up with smoking parents. Most if not all of them suffer from some sort of breathing ailments. My wife can't even laugh hard without breaking out in a bad cough. She's never smoked.

Anyway, I don't agree with banning smoking in ALL puplically visited private buisinesses. Restaraunts are one thing, but bars and the like, let the owners determine what they want. If it's a puplic facility, please ban it completely. If the workers want to smoke on their alotted break time give em an area out of the way to do it. If they are interacting with the public regularly then reprimand em for smelling like smoke if it bothers people. Let private buisiness determine what's right for themselves as far as employees. If insurance companies want to charge smokers more for insurance, fine. Again private buisiness.

In short, excessive laws and regs

 

Actually most places already have laws against excessive noise. It's just not enforced that often. We got ticketed in PoDunk, OR for our stereos being too loud. Well, my friends did anyway.

 

Oklahoma tried this, the Oklahoma supreme court did away with the law. I simply will not eat where smokers are now. Luckily, a majority of the restraunts are banning smoking... and yet, it has not hurt business ANY.



side note: we should ban this little guy >>> and his brother

 

The flip side concerns the employees of the business that allow smoking - they breathe it in whether thay want to or not, and its not as easy to just go get another job. What about the increased incidents of employee sick days due to respiratory problems? Increased health care costs? Increased building maintenance?

What is the cost balance between maintaining a smoking facility vs. a non-smoking one? In the end, its probably cheaper for the business to comply with a smoking ban.

 

First, we should these guys for drinking.

This guy for being gross

and this guy for being naked. (and enjoying it too much)