The Chevy offers the 6.0L 345hp motor in thier trucks called the Max. That thing hauls serious @#!.

 

Hell, I get 60 mpg when I reset my mpg computer while cruising down a sloping freeway.

 

Also look who [tries] to slam our trucks in commercials. All the other auto manufactures do, why? Because they know our truck is better. Take toyota for instance, what the **** is up with their commercials ... "its longer [garage doot closes on back of truck]" ... whomever made that commercial should get hit by a train.

 

OK since I posted this thread, there has been @ 17 reply's and they all suck. You all get an "F". The lowest mark goes to the guy claiming to get 32 MP w/his 5.4L. Go into drug rehab. Crystal Meth is dangerouse stuff dude!Several guys blathering on about a cammer motor that had as much chance as making it into a F-150 as Walter Mondale had becoming president. The fuel milage argument doesn't fly as anyone that concerned with fuel mialge, simlpy won't buy a full size truck. And if they do it wil be either a Nissan or Chevy as they get metter milage and are both quicker than our current 5.4L. And yes, as of today we have more HP than Chevy and Toyota. But they both have new trucks coming within what, 1 year and both will easily exceed our 300. (and they both test faster/quicker than ours now never mind then) And I'm well aware of the current advantages offered by the F-150 over the competition, otherwise I would't be driving one. Why must it be an either / or argument? For the purpose of this thread, I'm only debating the powertrain. And my question is what, if anything will Ford do to retain mkt share when all other makes (Dodge/Nissan/Chevy/Gm/Toyota) all exceed our maximum F-150 HP ratings?

 

I think he was kidding about 32mpg. I hope I don't get graded, I will fail for sure!

Kevin

 

I don't know...but I think I'm too stupid to reply!

 

[QUOTE=And my question is what, if anything will Ford do to retain mkt share when all other makes (Dodge/Nissan/Chevy/Gm/Toyota) all exceed our maximum F-150 HP ratings? [/QUOTE]

I dont think ford has to have the horsepower. Fuel economy sells also! Horsepower is a plus.... Put me in a truck that looks awsome/gets 27-28 mpg -VS- a 450HP 10mpg version and ill take the mileage.

 

ORIGINAL POST...."How will ford Sell Nav's"

I'm not an expert, but I would venture to say that most Navigator owners aren't as concerned about power as they are comfort. and face it, if your in the market for a Lincoln, you prolly dont really care that much about MPG anyways.

Just my 2 cents

 

That would be great but most F150s (including mine) get 13-15 MPG not 27-28. SOOO give me the choice of 300 HP/13mpg and 450HP/10mpg I would have to take the 450HP. 50HP per MPG seems like a good trade.

 

The horsepower -vs- mpg trade is exactly what im getting at. If ford keeps 300hp and can up the mpg then they would still be as competitive as if they up the horsepower and lose mpg. Hope that makes sense! I for one would also prefer more horsepower as I have spent lots of money for more power, But if I could get lots more mpg I would go that way also.

 

As of today we only have more horsepower than the Tundra and Honda 1/2 tons.

 

I'll give you that the GM 5.3 gets consistently better milage than the 5.4, but that Nissan Endurance 5.6 is second only to the HEMI im craptastic mpg. Sure some guys will get 17mpg with a Titan and some will get 14 mpg with the F-150 with but I'm guessing that if you average it up over a large number of trucks and drivers you'll be able to follow the displacement from the iForce 4.7, Vortec 5.3, Triton 5.4, Endurance 5.6 and HEMI 5.7

Actually, I think that's what Consumer Reports found when they tested all the full size trucks. The Titan is many things but overall more gas efficient than the F-150 isn't one of them.

 

Do people really look and worry that much about mpg?

Ford needs to make a big a$$ powerful motor for those of us that want it, then the mpg motor for everyone else.

 

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=217103 my original post on this.
link to the article: http://www.dieselforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=208

This might be the direction Ford is gonna take next.

 

I think that was the plan with the 4.6 but never worked out. Gets the same mileage.