I don't agree with your description of Thanksgiving but that aside...

You give wayyyyy too much credit to the American public. I bet half don't know what the traditional meaning of T-day is much less your version. It is all about marketing now...

I'm with WMR...don't nothing go up until after T-day. That Friday starts the Christmas season for my family. Sure the kids love Thanksgiving but only because they know it mean Santa is soon en route...They are sooo hyped when I start pulling the decorations down....They are bouncing now because we are talking about thanksgiving and learning the history of the holiday but I know it is because they know what is coming...the closer we get the more excited I get because of them.... :santa:

 

A local 'mix' radio station was already playing Christmas music this morning!

 

same here! I heard my frist x-mas song last week on a soft rock station by Kenny G. I was outside decorating for halloween listening to a x-mas song!!

 

Wasn't my version, Lord Vader... It's the Indian's version.

My staff was going to be short-handed For Thanksgiving two years ago because I had mistakenly approved too many people to have time off. So, instead of canceling their holiday, I asked for volunteers, offering a make-up day in the coming weeks to reciprocate. I only needed maybe 3 to volunteer. Craig volunteered, which surprised me because he was a football fanatic. I asked if he was sure, and he said Thanksgiving was no big deal from where he sat, because it didn't represent Thanksgiving from where the Indians sat. He went on to tell me the history behind it, and how the pilgrims killed lots of Indians and took their food for that first "Thanksgiving".

I had never heard that before...

Be dammed if it wasn't a week or two later that Judging Amy (Or some show with Tyne Daily) on it, was on- and they had a scene in school where the kids brought in pictures of Thanksgiving. The little Indian boy came in with hand drawn pictures of Indians laying on the ground dead & blood was everywhere, while the Pilgrims sat and ate food, the Indian's food. Of course, the little boy got in trouble and his father was called, and his father came to the school and told them why Thanksgiving wasn't a holiday from the perspective of the Indians; because it wasn't something to celebrate... He then told the story, on National TV/CBS if memory serves, almost the same way Craig had told me a week or two earlier... Too close to be a coincidence...

We still celebrate Thanksgiving in my house because that's an American custom and a family tradition. I've done it for the 34-years prior to my learning the history behind it; the real history. But, hundreds of years has passed since then, and it's now a Holiday for us. Just one of the many atrocities that have occured on this soil in the last 500+ years...

So, it's not my version it seems to be the version that the Indians all believe. I tend to believe that moreso than I do the watered down, candy version that I've believed prior to what I heard in 2002/2003. I haven't researched this because knowing how the Indians got effed over in the past (intentionally given small-pox, etc..) I have no reason to not believe this latest information...


This is pretty much the story Craig told me, as well as what I saw & heard on Judging Amy:
http://www.salsa.net/peace/article49.html


http://www.truthout.com/docs_01/11.23C.Thanksgiving.htm

 

I know what you mean and didnt mean for it to sound like "your" version was just something you've made up. I know the history you are referring to but what we celebrate really wasn't a masacre like what was related. Yes the Indians were decimated by Eurpoean settlers but not in 1621.

Go ahead and celebrate with a clear heart and conscience.

http://www.historychannel.com/thanksgiving/

Here is a place to start...

 

I like to have everything up before thanksgiving. The weather was nice last weekend so it provoked it.

My lights come down the day after chirstmas.

 

My Mom has one of those in lay-away at Walmart. I'd heard her talking about it, but I never knew what it looked like until now. :santa:

 

I'd be out there lighting that thing up with a paintball gun.

Bah humbug.