Watched Star Wars Episode III last night...
Originally Posted by bluejay432000
Watch "Lonesome Dove". A great movie, maybe my all time favorite, and many lessons of life taught in the movie. Plus, most people do not realize that it is based on the actual lives of Charles Goodnight and Col. Loving, the two Texans that were the first to take a cattle herd to Montana. I just threw this out there cause I knew some of you were starving for the info. 

Even better, read the books.
Originally Posted by fatman66
Even better, read the books.
http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
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Originally Posted by cia-agent
EXACTLY... I've also read that he was trained as a Sith, hence the yellow eyes; but showed no mastery of the force that I could see. Even with his artificial limbs, Vader could still move things.
Nope. Not a Sith. He was trained to use lightsabres.
Also, there are only 2 Sith. The master and the apprentice.
Hence, Dooku was only a pawn and Palpatine allowed him to die because he really wanted Anakin. Just as he was prepared to let Vader die to get Luke in Ep6.
Originally Posted by cia-agent
Yep- All he had was a heart, lungs and his eyes...
That was a bad ***** though.... Obi-Wan took him out too easily. GG made short work of 5-6 Jedi on the Cartoon, and- on the Deleted Scenes, he took out Saati in a very nasty way (She had just become a full Jedi on the cartoon).
That was a bad ***** though.... Obi-Wan took him out too easily. GG made short work of 5-6 Jedi on the Cartoon, and- on the Deleted Scenes, he took out Saati in a very nasty way (She had just become a full Jedi on the cartoon).
all goes back to painting ObiWan as a bad ***. Low key, but tough. Anakin states in Ep2 that ObiWan is as wise as Yoda and as skilled as Mace Windu with the lightsaber... and WIndu was supposed to be the baddest *** in the universe with a lightsaber.
Also, Obiwan comes froma strong master/apprentice line. He was trained by QuiGonn (who was so powerful with the force he transcended to the astral plane of existence) who was trained by Dooku who was trained by Yoda.
He didnt have any McDonald, burger flipping Jedi master training him.
Think about it... that ObiWan and Yoda could train an adult Luke over a very short period of time to be a Jedi able to not die when facing Vader and Palpatine in Ep6. Really, Obiwan trained Luke for what? days? And Yoda only had him for weeks. A few months at most (going by how long Han and Leia were at Bespin)
Last edited by J-150; Nov 3, 2005 at 02:25 PM.
Originally Posted by bluejay432000
Watch "Lonesome Dove". A great movie, maybe my all time favorite, and many lessons of life taught in the movie. Plus, most people do not realize that it is based on the actual lives of Charles Goodnight and Col. Loving, the two Texans that were the first to take a cattle herd to Montana. I just threw this out there cause I knew some of you were starving for the info. 

GREAT movie bluejay...I watch it when I have 5-6 hours to kill
I've just got to many questions about the whole thing...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
Originally Posted by closer9
I've just got to many questions about the whole thing...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
Originally Posted by J-150
Nope. Not a Sith. He was trained to use lightsabres.
Also, there are only 2 Sith. The master and the apprentice.
Hence, Dooku was only a pawn and Palpatine allowed him to die because he really wanted Anakin. Just as he was prepared to let Vader die to get Luke in Ep6.
Also, there are only 2 Sith. The master and the apprentice.
Hence, Dooku was only a pawn and Palpatine allowed him to die because he really wanted Anakin. Just as he was prepared to let Vader die to get Luke in Ep6.
In the expanded universe there are other "gray" Jedi trained folks that could become Sith.. It is of this Crop that a Sith Lord picks an Apprentice, and they become the only two true Sith..
Originally Posted by cia-agent
Agreed; I didn't say he was a Sith, I said he was trained as a Sith.
In the expanded universe there are other "gray" Jedi trained folks that could become Sith.. It is of this Crop that a Sith Lord picks an Apprentice, and they become the only two true Sith..
In the expanded universe there are other "gray" Jedi trained folks that could become Sith.. It is of this Crop that a Sith Lord picks an Apprentice, and they become the only two true Sith..
Originally Posted by cia-agent
Agreed; I didn't say he was a Sith, I said he was trained as a Sith.
In the expanded universe there are other "gray" Jedi trained folks that could become Sith.. It is of this Crop that a Sith Lord picks an Apprentice, and they become the only two true Sith..
In the expanded universe there are other "gray" Jedi trained folks that could become Sith.. It is of this Crop that a Sith Lord picks an Apprentice, and they become the only two true Sith..
agreed... just as one could learn Jedi ways without being a member of the Jedi order. Perfect example is Luke. When Ben trained him on the Falcon, he wasn't a Padewan. He was just a kid learning how to use a lightsaber.
Originally Posted by closer9
I've just got to many questions about the whole thing...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
What are the clones cloned from?
Why are there so many clones?
What exactly is a Sith?
What is Yoda?
What started the whole war, and who all was involved?
What is the Chancellors role?
How did he become Chancellor if he was a Sith, and no one know?
I'm sure there are many others, but maybe you guys can fill me in here...
Maybe I'll rent IV, V & VI one of these days...
cloned from one man: Jango Fett. You see in Ep3 that they all look the same
There are enough clones to form an army. The Republic had no army as they were at peace for 1000 years. The Jedi acted as cops.
A Sith is basically the opposite of a Jedi.
Yoda is a very old alien who happens to be a very powerful Jedi and leader of the Jedi council.
The war was started by some planets that wanted to leave (or were not part of) the Republic. A large part of the war, the creation of the clone army, the forming of enemy factions was orchestrated by Palpatine. He started as a Senator then moved up to Chancellor before claiming the rank of Emporer for himself (not unlike Hitlers rise to power)
A Sith uses the dark side of the force. The dark side clouds the vision of the light side of the force, hence, most Jedi couldnt see through him until it was too late.
Originally Posted by J-150
Think about it... that ObiWan and Yoda could train an adult Luke over a very short period of time to be a Jedi able to not die when facing Vader and Palpatine in Ep6. Really, Obiwan trained Luke for what? days? And Yoda only had him for weeks. A few months at most (going by how long Han and Leia were at Bespin)





