Is it just me or should the New Oleanians who stayed in their houses be told to shut up and take what is given. I've seen numerous news flims where the residents are yelling because the government isn't helping them. They aren't providing water. They aren't being told where to go to evacuate. They don't have power (etc, etc.).

Maybe it's just me but, I think they have no reason to complain. The entire city was under a mandatory evacuation order, prior to the hurricane. Those who stayed behind took an adult decision and chose poorly. Most probably had tv/radio before the storm and should know that the Superdome was designated a shelter. This shelter failed, but if I'm looking for a place for help, it would seem logical that the dome is the place to be. Instead these people are sitting on I-10 hoping that someone will stop and help. While waiting they are complaining htat no one is helping. Again it would seem logical to start walking. Either toward the dome or Baton Rouge, somewhere other than where they're at.

Sitting in the sun is going to kill them. they have no food and I don't see any growing on the highway. Three essentials to survival are food, shelter, water. Well none out of three won't work.

 

Those people that stayed home with their kids **** me off.


Totally lame brained thing to do.

I have nothing but pitty for the people stuck in the Superdome, I have nothing but pitty for kids caught out in the mess that used to be New Orleans only because their parents are morons.

The reason the evacuation and releif efforts are such a dissaster is because so many people stayed behind.

Some thing like 50,000 - 100,000.

When you read about the 30 people who died in that beach front apartment complex "They were having a Hurricane party", all you can do is shake your head in disbeleif.

All these people are mad because The Government wasnt ready......

I think the only thing the Government is guilty of is underestimating the Stupidity of the average person......

There is no excuse for riding out a class 5 hurricane with your children.

 

Listen.. i don't know you that well, yes i 'm a newbie!

but i am already not agreeing with you..no good!
.... and i'm making a statement about your ignorance!

know your facts:

New Orleans, LA
Population, town and surrounding area: 504,423


They did a damn good job evacuating if you ask my opinion! they obviously have no communication so people are going to major places.. (who knows what you'd be thinking about in that situation?!?!?!)


*shakes head*

 

You obviously missed the footage sunday afternoon as the town was evacuating.

The bars in the french quarter were packed with patrons drinking up having a good time. When Shepard Smith "FOX news" interviewed them they all went on and on about how tough the people from New Orleans are and that they arent afraid of Hurricanes.


Only 12,000 people went to the Superdome. Its funny how 75,000 can make it there on game day, but when its a life or death situation only 12,000 show up???

Im pretty sure I wouldnt be thinking, " Honey, lets stay here in our house. Were only 12 feet below sea level, surrounded by 3 bodies of water. I mean, Im sure those level 3 levies can handle a level 5 hurricane. Besides, If the city floods the kids can swim for it. They still have those floater rings we bought them last summer dont they?"

 

Maybe, just maybe, next time they hear a catagory 5 hurricane is heading towards them they'll be smart enough to get the hell out of Dodge. My condolences to all those who lost anyone and to those who lost everything but were smart enough to evacuate (or at least make an effort to), I hope you all get back on your feet ASAP, I'm donating blood and $ to the Red cross for you. Shame on all the A$$CLOWNS who stayed and endangered their families. Hope the looting was worth it.

 

Just for info the people you see on t v are creole not cajuns.

 

Most of those people you are seeing on TV that are still in New Orleans are the folks that nobody wants to acknowledge even exist in the every city in the US. Many of them lived in rundown shacks, didn't have jobs and lived off government payments, Most of those people literally had nothing before the storm and will have nothing left to come back to, they will probably never come back to New Orleans. They have no skills, trades, money or jobs and will have to be suppported for the rest of their lives. I wish Shep Smith from FOX would start asking everyone he comes across what they did for a job before the hurricane hit. I would guess 80-90%, were on gov't assistance. They cannot think for themselves b/c the society and gov't around them made it possible for them not to have to think they just showed up and got a check at the first of the month. They are like cattle in a stock pen waiting to get slaughtered, sitting around on street corners waiting for the next public transit bus to come pick them up, except no bus is making any stops when your city is under 1O ft of water, but they cannot comprehend that b/c they are ingrained to just wait and have the expectation that someone will provide. There will still be refugees being housed somewhere in 5 years unless the gov't just shuts the camps down and kicks everyone out.

 

what is the difference?

French vs Spanish?

I've always wondered this.

 

Please keep in mind that these are low income residents...they do not have a nice F150 to pack their families into and drive out of town with...I do place just as much blame on those in charge as I do the residents...those in charge were not prepared to handle the concequences of calling for a MANDATORY EVACUATION....it is evident that they were not prepared and it is still evident that they do not have a plan...my heart and thoughts go out to those that are stranded.....and my anger is directed to those that are showing POOR leadership....

 

I stand by my original statement of those who didnt leave, or get to the super dome are rather dense.


Let me prove my point


Those who stayed behind arent exactly rocket scientists.


This might explain why Residents have now taken to shooting at rescue Helicopters.

Kind of funny, but theres a moral behind this.........

 

That looks like the doofus I saw in the shop this morning bitchin about water leaks in his new car.

 

Creole's are slave descendants that took on french culture also. We as cajuns are direct from Novia Scotia when we were exiled out of France because of our Catholic beliefs. But as you might imagine that is getting more and more blurred over time.

 

Yep -- the scariest thing about the pictures coming out of New Orleans to me is this VAST underbelly of America that is populated by people who have this deep, ingrained, uneducated perspective that life is just sitting around and waiting for someone (usually the government) to do something for you.

I suspect most of these folks have not seen "quality time" inside a classroom in GENERATIONS -- WTF folks?!

Truly FRIGHTENING!!!

 

You try and evacuate that many people with no past experience, there have been hurricanes before but not to the extent of having to evacuate an entire city that large. You try and lead and run an organized plan in a city where communication even between the emergency response teams has broken down due to loss of power, and I would love to see you organize and operate a proper plan while your personnel are being shot at by the scum of that city that are now running around not only looting but carjacking raping and robbing.

The government and emergency agencies can plan and plan all they want but just like with everything in life theres what you have on the books and what happens in reality. The government is doing a damned good job moving that many people in the amount of time they have working around the clock with the resources avilable to them.

 

Being a former Louisiana state resident, and a visitor to New Orleans at least once a year, indeed my heart goes out to the city... My heart goes out to those who lost their own lives, to those who loved ones, and to those who lost their home and all their possessions. Material things can be replaced- as long as you can still get both hands firmly around your own @$$, that's enough to start over; even if it means relocation.

That said- I agree, it was rather stupid to stay and "wait-out" a Hurricane; but people often do. Growing up in Louisiana, right next to a levee that protects my town from the mighty Mississippi River; I've seen my share of warnings too. We (La) got grazed at least once or twice a year by a tropical storm or Hurricane. ( Betsy Camille ) We've seen them come and seen them go. A level 4 was about to lay the smack-down on Avery Island a year or two ago- it was a level 4 or 5 and as it approached the coast, it weakened drastically (cooler water near the shores) and became a big thunderstorm- of the level 2-3 range. So, with so many near misses- people get numb to the possibility...

Ivan hit last year, no biggie to the city; I remember Elena taking a similar path, but weakened before it got to me (Near Natchez, MS) but still dumped tons of rain and high wind on us. People ride out Hurricanes every year in Florida. Why? Because many American's feel that our building codes are enough to withstand a storm (As long as it's not a tornado). Folks in Jamaica & Cuba survive, and they live in sheds compared to the avg American home; surely nothing like the huge losses of life attributed to Hurricane Mitch, Hurricane Camille or Hurricane Betsy could ever befall us again...

You're right, most of those people that stayed behind are either: stupid, stubborn, in denial, or didn't believe the storms potential for devastation on New Orleans could truly come to pass. Others were probably unable to get out due to financial constraints and more importantly- traffic jams. There are only 4 routes out of New Orleans and three of them put you in increased danger (If you waited until Sunday night/Monday morning to leave). So, the main routes out: I-10 West, or I-10 West to I-55 North became parking lots.

Not that I'm trying to make excuses; just stating how complacency can get your @$$ handed to you. When you've heard "Wolf" at least once a year for 43 years; you tend to not believe there's a wolf.

As for the statements regarding the people's wealth, how they've been surviving, their educational status, etc.. To that I ask- What the fock does that matter? Does that mean because they may/may not have money; may/may not be on federal assistance, may/may not own a car, may/may not have an education- that' it's OK for them to suffer? Surely that's not what any of you mean... Certainly we as a civilization have grown past our Darwinist ideals where human life is concerned...

Did they make poor choices? No denying that...
Do the looters deserve to be arrested on sight? If they aren't carrying food, water- I couldn't agree more; but- people have to eat and there's no stores open, no restaurants open, nowhere to buy anything legally. So what should they do? Suffer in 90 degree heat for the 3rd day in a row with no food or water? Surely not.

I agree, the ones that could have left and didn't don't deserve as much pity as those that wanted to leave- but couldn't... Louisiana is poor, dirt poor. One of the poorest states in the USA, right alongside Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and West "By God" Virginia. The average median income in the city is somewhere around $20,000.00, with 17% of the population at or below the poverty line. The City has about 500,000 residents, but the greater N.O. area has about 1.3 million people. That means in New Orleans alone, there are 65,000 people that are poverty stricken, not counting the outlying areas.. Considering how bad conditions were with 20,000 - 30,000 in the Superdome, imagine how insufferable it would have been with 65,000 people eating, sleeping, drinking, farting, urinating & defecating in the Superdome, for three days- with no way to get rid of a single turd.

It's hard to raise children, have a decent house, a car, eat, gas, etc on that salary. There are few high paying jobs in that area, consequently- few highly paid people...

So while it's hard to believe people actually decided to ride out a level 5, I don't think its right to lump them all into the (Waste of Skin) bucket; just because they're poor.