http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=45562

Check that out. Some of the info in the article sounds a little farfetched, but definately worth a read. What do yall think?

 

I think it's absolute bollocks

 

That is kinda what Im thinking too, but Bin Laden did state that their goal is to kill 4 million Americans. The ONLY way to do that is by nuclear attack. The main reason I would call BS is where they say that the terrorists have such a large arsenal of nukes of all sizes. I do believe they have at least one nuclear weapon, but not that many. I also call BS where they say that 9 major US cities are targeted. But then again, how can you not think about something like this, where if you live within 100 miles of any major city, you could be killed. Anyways, just something to think about.

 

Does the sneezing/saying "Buii*****" out loud thing . . .

That is kinda what Im thinking too, but Bin Laden did state that their goal is to kill 4 million Americans. The ONLY way to do that is by nuclear attack.

The only way? Hardly. Bio Chemical could do it.

The main reason I would call BS is where they say that the terrorists have such a large arsenal of nukes of all sizes. I do believe they have at least one nuclear weapon, but not that many.

Most likely, it's NONE. If they had one, don't you think they would have used it by now? And if not here, especially in Israel? But let's say we give them the benefit of a doubt and say they've got one. What do you thing the yield would possibly be? Not much, and most likely, it'd be a dirty bomb.

. . . if you live within 100 miles of any major city, you could be killed.

You've been watching too many doomsday movies. (By the way, you left out the fact that it would cause the birth of Godzilla). Look, I'm not downplaying the lethality of nukes, but I'm not going to blow it out of proportion either (no pun intended).

Are you under the assumption that everything within 100 miles would be destroyed by blast damage? At even 100 megatons that wouldn't happen (and the practical effectiveness of that many tons is debatable). A good amount of damage from a nuke is blast damage and the range of that damage depends on a number of things such as explosive yield and burst altitude. Outside of the blast range are the effects of thermal radiation which is mostly fires and burns. Beyond that you've got ionizing radiation, and then fallout. And even fallout, which everyone seems to fear, well, the effects can vary greatly becasue of any number of variables.

With whatever they might have (and I doubt they have anything nuclear) it probably wouldn't be in the kilotons and certainly not in the megatons. Assuming an effective yield, you get maybe 0.4 of a mile of blast range per 1 kiloton. 10 megatons is good for about 9 miles. And there's no way they have anything near that big.

The major damage from a tactical nuke on the order that they might have, even a dirty bomb . . . would be psychological. This country comes totally unhinged when the shuttle blows up. A nuke, no matter how small or ineffectively used, would bring this country to a state of complete panic, a collective nervous breakdown, and cause everything to come to a screeching halt, resulting in total economic devastation. Everyone within a hundred miles dead? No. Everything being blown to hell metaphorically? Yup.


The article (and consider the source there . . . that should tell you all you need to know) says it's this week. What do you wanna bet that by next week this thread is on page 8? It also says the most likely date is the 6th . . . That's the day I'm flying to New York. Bet I make it fine.

Kobi-

 

It's World Net Daily. That says it all.

 

They can't attack us on Saturday...I have to change the oil in my truck on Sunday.

MR

 

Racerchick68: "Phuckin GREAT. I just got my new rotors, and now we're all gonna get blown up".

 

Gosh darn it I'm agreeing with Kobi again. How can two people this far apart on the political spectrum agree this often.

The terrorists ability to deliver a nuke effectively doesn’t worry me. Predictions with specific dates worry me even less.

The intellectual capacity of the general public to understand our risks before and after an attack scares the begeezus out of me.

Another attack is a certainty. When and how are the only variables.

Seeing how effective they were in London really worries me....not.

I don’t want to downplay the significance of such an attack both on human lives and psychologically but the overall risk to each individual is quite small.

I read Worldnetdaily…they have some good information and some well written editorials. Their magazine does a fine job on most topics. However, they do tend to go off the deep end too often which ruins their credibility.

Getting my "Checklist for a good conservative" off the bookshelf and doing a self assessment.

Nope....still over here on the right....wait I think I see Rush but wow is he far to the left of me...is he really riding an elephant? Go figure.

 

Never know...somebody could decide to just randomly blow your head off before you ever get on the plane! Just a thought

Or better yet, the rapture may occur and then none of this would be a factor.

Anyways, you see my point. Back to lurking again

 

Let me add my probably wrong $.02. From what I have learned about Nucs is that they need to be detonated in the air to really have any effect...of course now with technology I'm sure they can be detonated on the ground, but the terrorists would have "pre-historic" nucs and would definitely need altitude to deliver the impact they want. Saying that, there is no way they could possibly get a nuc in the air. Even if they have their own plane, they will still be inspected, and it's kind of hard to hide a nuc if you know what I mean.

Not really worried about it.

 

Or some punk woman could decide to open the door in flight....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/04/pla....ap/index.html

 

Drunk old hag.

Maybe she was a terrorist wannabe?

Talk about giving somebody one of them thar inferiority complexes.

(Chaws tobacker and spits)

 

Now there is nothing wrong with using your head and some common sense instead of a right (or left) wing checklist, in fact, it would be preferable. As stated previously (by you I think), anyone that criticizes GW is called a liberal (followed by some explicative) right away, which is quite often far from the truth and demonstrates the problem with following along with the crowd ( or maybe it's the crowd you chose to follow). If terrorists wanted to detonate any kind of a bomb in the U.S., they could have and would have. One day, a group will decide to do it again, but this "report" is just putting people into panic mode. By the way, have you noticed that we are no longer in a war on terror? The white house is now calling it a "struggle against extremist forces" or something like that. There will always be extremist forces, and always be a danger. As long as we want to be involved with things like Israel, right or wrong, we will be at risk. That is NOT to say it is our fault, it is only saying that you need to be aware of the risks associated with your actions (before some right wing spin doctor says I am blaming the US, I am not).

Please vader, continue the free thinking, remain conservative, America needs the best ideas from ALL sides.

 

There has been only one "known" country to produce a 100 megaton nuke (The Soviet Union), and no one has ever been silly enough to detonate anything that big in our atmosphere. Russia did drop a 57-megaton Crowd-Pleaser above the Artic Sea. (Scaled down version of the 100-megaton behemoth)

I watched a special on the Discovery channel and found out that between the US, USSR, France, England and China- over 310 nuclear devices have been detonated in earths atmoshpere- and several at Los Alamos, Trinity and the Nevada Test site. Not just that one on July 16, 1945 (As I had believed).

25 Megatons, air-burst at 1,500 feet can cause combustible material to spontaneously combust, and cause 2nd and 3rd degree burns up to 100 Km away (62.2 miles). The bigger the blast, the further the effects.
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While I doubt that terrorists have anything in the Megaton Range, a 10 Kt nuke would re-arrange most cities, don't let the small size fool you. 10 Kilo tons sounds small, until you realize that's 10,000 tons or 20,000,000 lbs of TNT. That's one helluva boom...

You saw what 10Kt did to Hiroshima & 13Kt did to Nagasaki. (Although some books say Hiroshima was a 21Kt.)

I believe it's possible for us to be sneakily attacked with a nuke, but- it's been possible for over 30 years. It's widely known that Russia had 100 "suitcase nukes" that range from 1Kt to 10Kt, and on last inspection 18 of them were unaccounted for. That was all over the news in 1997-1998. I don't know if they found them or not.

I say, if they ever uke us, that we go in and flatten the entire middle east.
Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and all of them... That way we'll know we got them...

I know that's stupid, and may be overkill; but it's the only way to be sure...

(OK, I got my figures crossed- at 25 MT, you'd be hurt; but not 3rd degree burns) That's for the bigger blasts.....

Blast Mapper

 

MAD works....usually ...


Don't know about the fanatical though...