I'm no fan of Gore or Clinton (either one), but let's not forget that 3,000 civilians were killed under W's watch. The current administration has a vested interest in making the terrorist attacks as complex and devious as they can. Everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else, but all they had to do was read the memo--"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US". If you haven't read it put aside your current beliefs for a moment and have a look at it. Ask yourself why the whitehouse didn't want to release it to the 9/11 commission. It's an important part of our history. Here's the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/

Budget surpluses are now record deficits, the cost of healthcare has skyrocketed, the economy tanked, and we started a war--for the first time in history--based on a fantasy. I don't like Clinton, but at least got the mastermind behind the 1st bombing--and he's still in jail. Every day we spend in Iraq is tantamount to pissing on the graves of the everyone who died in New York.

If we would have devoted the same military power to finding Bin Laden as we did to Iraq, We'd have him. A long time ago.

And my personal miff--that perceptible veil of invincibility built around our military after the 1st gulf war and Kosovo would still exist.

I've read way too much to believe that the world trade center attacks weren't preventable. We had warning, we had a security chief wanting to meet with the president, and he wouldn't.

I want one of two things from a presidency. A good economic climate to do business in or my own safety; this presidency, despite what the spin doctors would have you believe, has done neither.

-Fatz

p.s. McCain 2008!

 

You are entitled to your opinion. Here is mine.

If you, and people that share your "knowlege" have all the answers, why aren't you running for office? I get so tired of hearing "if" this and "if" that. You know something, the picture you see is far different from the one I see. All of our guys in Iraq are fighting for the honor of the people who were killed by terrorists on 9/11/01, and from where I am the economic picture looks pretty good. The company I work for has been able to upgrade and expand with Bush in office.

I'm not a Bush a$$ kisser. I don't agree with all that is being done. I'm not at all religious, so you can see that I might have a problem with the strong religious right. Bush will be gone soon enough. Hopefully we have a choice of some one who will encourage hard work and self support and discourage mooching of the tax payers backs.

There are (at least) two sides to every story. If we all could understand that then there would be far less people forming opinions on polotics based on what they saw on a Michel Moore movie.

That's my opinion.

 

It's in my sig.,,,,98:santa:

 

Lets not forget that clinton cut spending on the military to the point where terrorists attacked the USS COLE and there was nothing done, opening the door for an attack in NYC.

Thanks CLinton! You Doushebag.

At least Bush doesn't put his tail between his legs and allow ***** like this to happen. He goes after them and scares them into the caves of tora bora.


Clinton was a good president. too bad he failed as a father and husband. Helluva role model for children... F@ck an intern, cheat on your wife, lie to your children, and decieve the American Citizens who you are supposed to represent.
Yeah thanks *****head.

 

First, yes the “supposed” surpluses are now deficits. It’s due to war time and there is no problem having deficits in war time. Remember the main reason there is a federal government is to PROTECT America and NOT help the useless and lazy.

Actually it would be quite easy to make the deficits go away. Simply cut every social program there is equally until you are at a zero sum. You do NOT make deficits go away by tax hikes because that has proven EVERY single time to slow the economy. Tax cuts on the other hand have proven EVERY single time to bring MORE revenue into the federal government. Problem is people in Washington LOVE to spend OUR money. Don’t matter if they are republican or democrat.

I would imagine one reason for healthcare skyrocketing is the ease that the useless in our society have to healthcare. Those on welfare can walk in anytime day or night to take little Johnny into the emergency room because he has sniffles.

You want to help reduce the cost of healthcare then take it away from those on welfare and make them wait like everyone else. Make it to where they ONLY get benefits if it is REALLY needed. For example if mommy takes little Johnny into the emergency room for the sniffles mommy gets $200 deducted from her next check. Very simple, and if mommy does NOT use the doctors we tell her she can then she is on her own for paying the bills. It’s called putting the welfare mommy’s on HMO’S and FORCE them to choose from particular doctors in a book like everyone else has to. No more freedom for mommy to take Johnny in where ever, when ever and for what ever UNLESS it is an actually need. That there my friend will help reduce the rise of healthcare that we WORKING Americans have to pay for…

Our economy has NOT tanked under President Bush. President Bush inherited a tanking economy from Clinton that was caused by RECORD high tax hikes, and Clinton’s neglect to protect our country from 9/11 before it happen.

Under President Bush our economy is finally starting to boom…

Started a war on fantasy? What fantasy land are you in? There was NO fantasy about the serious threat Iraq was to America. As a matter of fact the ENTIRE free world agreed with us that Saddam had WMD’S. That was proven by the United Nations in where EVERY single nation agreed that Saddam had WMD’S and was a threat to the world. Problem was the United Nations has no ***** and many nations were on the take for Saddam’s money. Read up on it sometime about the scandal and Saddam putting tons of money into many hands to BUY votes at the United Nations. Saddam screwed up with President Bush because he figured President Bush for a push over and wuss like Clinton. Saddam is freaking pissed now that he under estimated President Bush…

Clinton NEVER got the mastermind of the first bombing, not sure where you get your information but as a matter of FACT Clinton let the mastermind of the first bombing walk, not once, not twice but three times. We are still hunting for him today and he is known as OBL…

Clinton was a wuss when it came to doing his duty as President. Rather then acting like a man and fulfilling his obligation as Commander In Chief he acting like a boy and played with young little girls…

Clinton did very little for this country and then did A LOT for this country, he did A LOT as far as putting America at greater risk then it had ever seen before. Not only did he give free passes to terrorist but also helped arm China with technology for Nukes that put them approx. 10 – 20 years a head of schedule…

 

I should have known this would get stupid(unsubscribed),,,,98

 

We cannot blame Bush for 9/11 as it happened 6 or 7 months after he took office. 9/11 had been building for years before President Bush ever thought of running for office. One word, appeasement. That is like saying it is Bush's fault that SS is a problem. We've known for 15 years that SS was going to be a problem. Back to 9/11, the truth is that Clinton had a few opportunities to take out Ossama and he did not. Clinton also slashed our military badly while in office. We lost one Navy Base right here in Jax thanks to Clinton.
As for the economy, I'm self employed and never been busier, home ownership is at an all time high, unemployment is down maybe even lower than it was when Clinton was in office. I really don't see how the economy has tanked. I'm not saying President Bush is perfect but he will protect all of us and this country to the best of his abilities. He believes that he is doing the right thing and continued to do what he thought was best for this country even though it might have cost him the election. If you can't respect atleast that much then I don't know what to say....especially today where politicians will do or say anything to get elected. Take Kerry for instance.
As for the war in Iraq, The world is a better safer place without Saddaam and his murdering thug sons around. The fact that there are free elections in both Afghanistan and Iraq are huge even though there are some who want to minimize this fact by saying they are illigitimate. This is a true slap in the face to those who have lost their lives on 9/11 and the soldiers who died in both wars.

Ok well, I guess it's good that we have all awakened from our safe little slumber and taken the world and our freedom seriousely. I'm glad to see some passion from everyone, whatever your political beliefs are.

Scott

 

 

moss grows fat on a rolling stone?

 

I would love to see a presidential race between Condi Rice & Hillary Rotten Clinton.

Condi would most definitely win!!! She would get a much larger percentage of the African American and Female voters. Something no other republican presidential candidate has been able to do. Add all the traditional votes that any other Republican would get, and you have a clear cut victory.

I think america is ready for a female President. Can you imagine, the first Black President and the first female President EVER, all at once and she's a Republican...WOW!! That's some pretty good odds for Condi Rice.

I think the President has tried to put her in positions that would make her a viable Presidential Nominee for the Republican party, by placing her in various key areas of his cabinet.

If Collin Powell was serious about being President, I don't think he would have left the spot light of being apart of the President's team. On the flip side, I suppose he could be trying to seperate himself from the President, for a future race. Much like Hillary and Bill has done.

Condoleezza Rice would get my vote!!!

 

Phew just read the first and last pages....figured D killed it but guess not.

I love the hate/love Bush/Clinton posts.

I couldn't be more alienated on this one. I think Bush is a good president and has good domestic plans but Iraq was and is a mistake. How about Iran and oh yea N. Korea. They've actually said "We have nukes so now let's talk." Hows that for ticking off both the libs and the neo-cons.

Seems to be getting heated but I loved Kobiashi's pic. Maybe it had meaning about moss and maybe it was meant to soothe the waters.

I'll choose the later.

Game on....

 

We all live downstream?

 

I can’t wait to see Kerry campaign for president again

 

Well when it comes to politicians that is the truth.

They are upstream relieving themselves and we are swimming downstream thanking them for the warm water they are giving us.

I don't care what side of the aisle they sit on, I don't trust 99% of them. The 1% that are worthy of trust can't get anything done.