The ABC Tourney!! Woo-hoo!! Me & the Tan Terror should get into city limits early Thursday afternoon. If you see a big beige beast w/ tinted windows, a bull bar & MI plates... you know its me... heh heh heh... so, where do the hot chicks with big hootie cans hang out?

 

Your a Bowler ?? lol

Well if you see the red Beast with limoed windows and vent visors its me.

There are two hooters in town seigen ln and college dr.

We need clonetek to come down, maybe have a mini meet

 

Sweet. I'll be on the lookout. I'm going to need addresses to those hootie-cans.

Time for bed... gotta get rest for that road trip (in two days... )

Hey, the clone-ster... sounds like a riot. I wanna be hammered when I bowl this year.. figure it would help out!

 

Yeah that is a Nice road trip

 

For all the Bush haters..

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness...

Congress held a special session to discuss the life of Terri Shiavo. They passed a bill that would allow her parents to ask a federal judge to prolong her life, by re-inserting her feeding tube. Presidnt Bush signed the law.

Before you start hating the President for doing all this evil law signing, maybe you should start with the Senators that sent it to his desk. They are only doing what they have to do. Plain and simple.

Who's job is it, by the way, to make sure all Americans have Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness? Our Government.

Why are we talking about this crap? Thank the media, next time you see a Channel 4 Van, run em off the road.

If it were I, I would rather die than sit in a Hospice for 15 years But, that just me.

 

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The same president that allowed 144 other people to die in the electric chair while the governor of Texas? None of them were brain damaged, and may have been rehabilitated. Did they get any sympathy or clemency from W? Nope, he allowed all 144 of them to die.

Hypocrisy at its finest! Great reading.....

Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer criticized Gov. George W. Bush for making fun of an executed Texas woman in an interview Bush gave to Talk magazine. "I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death." Just before her execution date, Tucker appealed for clemency on the grounds that she had become a born-again Christian. Bush's reply: " `Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, `don't kill me,' "
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Ooops it was 152 people, but who cares right?

152 Executions as Governor

152 Claude Jones 12/07/2000
151 Daniel Hittle 12/06/2000
150 Garry Miller 12/05/2000
149 Tony Chambers 11/15/2000
148 Stacey Lawton 11/14/2000
147 Miguel Flores 11/09/2000
146 Jeffery Dillingham 11/01/2000
145 Ricky McGinn 09/27/2000
144 Jeffery Caldwell 08/30/2000
143 David Gibbs 08/23/2000
142 Richard Jones 08/22/2000
141 John Satterwhite 08/16/2000
140 Oliver Cruz 08/09/2000
139 Brian Roberson 08/09/2000
138 Juan Soria 07/26/2000
137 Orien Joiner 07/12/2000
136 Jessy San Miguel 06/29/2000
135 Gary Graham 06/22/2000
134 Paul Nuncio 06/15/2000
133 John Burks 06/14/2000
132 Thomas Mason 06/12/2000
131 Robert Carter 05/31/2000
130 James Clayton 05/25/2000
129 Richard Foster 05/24/2000
128 James Richardson 05/23/2000
127 Michael McBride 05/11/2000
126 William Kitchens 05/09/2000
125 Tommy Jackson 05/04/2000
124 Timothy Gribble 03/15/2000
123 Ponchai Wilkerson 03/14/2000
122 Odell Barnes, Jr. 03/01/2000
121 Betty Beets 02/24/2000
120 Cornelius Gross 02/23/2000
119 James Moreland 01/27/2000
118 Glen McGinnis 01/25/2000
117 Billy Hughes, Jr. 01/24/2000
116 Larry Robison 01/21/2000
115 David Hicks 01/20/2000
114 Spencer Goodman 01/18/2000
113 Earl Heiselbetz, Jr. 01/12/2000
112 Sammie Felder, Jr. 12/15/1999
111 Robert Atworth 12/14/1999
110 James Beathard 12/09/1999
109 David Long 12/08/1999
108 Jose Gutierrez 11/18/1999
107 John Lamb 11/17/1999
106 Desmond Jennings 11/16/1999
105 Domingo Cantu, Jr. 10/28/1999
104 Jerry McFadden 10/14/1999
103 Alvin Crane 10/12/1999
102 Richard Smith 09/21/1999
101 William Davis 09/14/1999
100 Willis Barnes 09/10/1999
99 Raymond Jones 09/01/1999
98 Joe Trevino, Jr. 08/18/1999
97 James Earheart 08/11/1999
96 Kenneth Dunn 08/10/1999
95 Charles Boyd 08/05/1999
94 Ricky Blackmon 08/04/1999
93 Tyrone Fuller 07/07/1999
92 Charles Tuttle 07/01/1999
91 Joseph Faulder 06/17/1999
90 William Little 06/01/1999
89 Clydell Coleman 05/05/1999
88 Jose De La Cruz 05/04/1999
87 Aaron Foust 04/28/1999
86 Excell White 03/30/1999
85 Charles Rector 03/26/1999
84 Norman Green 02/24/1999
83 Andrew Cantu 02/16/1999
82 Danny Barber 02/11/1999
81 George Cordova 02/10/1999
80 Martin Vega 01/26/1999
79 Troy Farries 01/13/1999
78 John Moody 01/05/1999
77 James Meanes 12/15/1998
76 Jeff Emery 12/08/1998
75 Daniel Corwin 12/07/1998
74 Kenneth McDuff 11/17/1998
73 Jonathan Nobles 10/07/1998
72 Javier Cruz 10/01/1998
71 David Castillo 08/23/1998
70 Delbert Teague, Jr. 09/09/1998
69 Genaro Camacho, Jr. 08/26/1998
68 Leopoldo Narvaiz 06/26/1998
67 Johnny Pyles 06/15/1998
66 Clifford Boggess 06/11/1998
65 Pedro Muniz 05/19/1998
64 Robert Carter 05/18/1998
63 Frank McFarland 04/29/1998
62 Lesley Gosch 04/24/1998
61 Joseph Cannon 04/22/1998
60 Jerry Hogue 03/11/1998
59 Steven Renfro 02/09/1998
58 Karla Tucker 02/03/1998
57 Michael Lockhart 12/09/1997
56 Charlie Livingston 11/21/1997
55 Michael Sharp 11/19/1997
54 Aaron Fuller 11/06/1997
53 Aua Lauti 11/04/1997
52 Kenneth Ransom 10/28/1997
51 Ricky Green 10/08/1997
50 Dwight Adanandus 10/01/1997
49 John ****rum 09/30/1997
48 Benjamin Stone 09/25/1997
47 Jessel Turner 09/22/1997
46 James Davis 09/09/1997
45 Robert West, Jr. 07/29/1997
44 Irineo Montoya 06/18/1997
43 Eddie Johnson 06/17/1997
42 David Stoker 06/16/1997
41 Earl Behringer 06/11/1997
40 Davis Losada 06/04/1997
39 Dorsie Johnson, Jr. 06/04/1997
38 Kenneth Harris 06/03/1997
37 Patrick Rogers 06/02/1997
36 Robert Madden 05/28/1997
35 Larry White 05/22/1997
34 Bruce Callins 05/21/1997
33 Clarence Lackey 05/20/1997
32 Richard Drinkard 05/19/1997
31 Clifton Belyeu 05/16/1997
30 Anthony Westley 05/13/1997
29 Terry Washington 05/06/1997
28 Ernest Baldree 04/29/1997
27 Benjamin Boyle 04/21/1997
26 Kenneth Gentry 04/16/1997
25 Billy Woods 04/14/1997
24 David Spence 04/03/1997
23 David Herman 04/02/1997
22 John Barefield 03/12/1997
21 Richard Brimage, Jr. 02/10/1997
20 Joe Gonzales, Jr. 09/18/1996
19 Kenneth Granviel 02/27/1996
18 Leo Jenkins 02/09/1996
17 James Briddle 12/12/1995
16 Esequel Banda 12/11/1995
15 Hai Vuong 12/07/1995
14 Bernard Amos 12/06/1995
13 Harold Lane 10/04/1995
12 Carl Johnson 09/19/1995
11 Vernon Sattiewhite 08/15/1995
10 Karl Hammond 06/21/1995
9 John Fearance 06/20/1995
8 Ronald Allridge 06/08/1995
7 Fletcher Mann 06/01/1995
6 Noble Mays 04/06/1995
5 Samuel Hawkins 02/21/1995
4 Billy Gardner 02/16/1995
3 Jeffery Motley 02/07/1995
2 Willie Williams 01/31/1995
1 Clifton Russell, Jr. 01/31/1995

 

Wait wait a minute here. Since when is it the president/governors decision who dies and who lives? Isnt there a little thing that called the judicial system? Perhaps yall have heard of the thing called Checks and Balances? If not, it prevents one branch of government from having too much power.

Either way, its not congress' decision whether she should be pulled off life support. After 15 years, you would think her family would rather Terry not suffer anymore, but they are more worried about them suffering. They dont have to live with the condition that Terry does.

 

This is definitely a touchy subject and one that should be left up to Terri's family not the courts. I know if I were in the state she is in I would not want to be kept alive, there is something to be said for quality of life. I'm sure her parents think they are doing what is best for their child but are they really? A parents love for a child can often overshadow the facts and make it hard to see things as they are not as they would like them to be. They want to believe that she can get better because they can't take the pain of admitting that it just isn't going to happen. Barring some miracle she is not going to improve and would live out the rest of her days as a vegetable. I wish it weren't necessary to starve her to death, to me that is extremely cruel and inhumane, death with dignity should be an option to end her suffering and allow the entire family to move on with their lives.

 

Both my parents had to be removed from machines due to my dad having a brain tumor (cancer) and my mom had kidney failure and was diabetic along with heart problems she was on a feeding tube as was my dad. Mom was also on a respirator. I finally made the decision to have the feeding tube removed and morphine injections for my dad to relieve pain from pressure from the tumor. I had to make some hard choices and they were only 10 months apart when they died. I could not for the life of me see them continue on these machines and feeding tubes. My dad was in such pain he squeezed my hand during one attack and broke 2 of my fingers. My dad was my hero and i miss him he was a huge man of 6' 10" and had everything to live for. My mom had issues all her life and when the machines and feeding tube were taken out she died but it took 2 days of total agony for our whole family seeing how we had just removed my dads 10 months ago. My heart goes out to her family but there is a time when you just have to tell that person its okay to let go i will hold your hand and be with you through it all. My moms heartbeat slowed to under 25 beats a minute and then she was gone. My dad died in my arms in 25 hours. I do now know it was the right thing to do but at the time i second guessed myself every second. I say let her go its been way to long to continue the pain for all involved.

sorry i got off track a bit i think.

 

The issue is state's rights. The federal government only has certain specific rights given to it. That's why many opposed an amendment banning gay marriage, not because they are for it (gay marriage), but because they are against giving up rights. It's why we don't have a federal seat belt law, but individual states have them.

 

here are some morals Lariat (note, I fully respect your opinion on this):



she is allowed to live in her own personal prison... in a prison cell smaller than the worst mass murderer... she cant feed herslf... heck she cant even wipe her own a$$.

What does that make us? That makes us (as a collective population that forces her to remain alive against her "alleged" wishes) kidnappers. Thats right. We are kidnapping her and holding her against her wishes (according to her husband) This is usually punishable by a lengthy jailterm.


Pulling the feeding tube isnt murder. Pulling a trigger is. Huge difference.


Sure her wishes are not in writing. How many on this board have a living will or written documentation asking that they not be kept alive on life support? Who can foresee a brain damaging heart attack/stroke?

 

Good post. Many have a flawed sense of what is the government's privy and what's not. Of course there are a muriad (sp) of reasons why that is so. The federal government has no place in this, it is a private (family) matter. Period, no ifs ands or buts about it. Regardless of one's emotions and morals, none of us have a say in it either.

Personally as a parent I could never just let my child die, but in that particular situation I don't know what I'd do. She left her parent's custody @ 18 by being emancipated, and then completely when she was married. I'd say her husband has the final word in this. Now as far as removing her feeding tube, persoanally I think that's pretty effed up and if I was in the same situation I'd prefer someone shoot me in the head and get it over with. And before you hop on the pulling a trigger is murder, don't.

If the ultimate goal is to end a life, do it as quickly, and humanely as possible. Starving to death, whether she can feel it or not is not particularly the way to go in my book. Pardon me while I get down off this soap box

 

Let her die peacefully. It is wrong to hope that she makes some sort of a recovey cause she won't. Doctors said last night on CNN that she had no oxegen for 5 minutes to the brain. They said its just fluid in the brain where it makes decisions and creates ideas.

I pray for her! I hope the hands of god take her to a better place where she won't be a prisoner in her own body. I think this is something we all have to talk about with our families, do you want to pull the plug or leave it in if it was you?

Very sad her family is fighting like this plus the stupid government is involved? The government should not be telling you how to live your life. That's wrong.