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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Linksys Router help

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I have a wireless linksys access point router 4port switch
Model #BEFW11S4Ver.2
http://www.linksys.com/support/display.asp

wireless internet goes to wan connect (selfpowered)
Desktop is connect thru port 1
laptop atm wireless its setup to get its internet thru the desktop

Can i set it to get internet thru the router not needing the desktop to be on ?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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How the heck did you connect your latop wireless via the desktop? You need to setup the WAP, then the laptop wireless setup to the settings of the WAP. Something is wrong with your senario... you have a wireless card on the desktop, internet connection sharing enabled, then have an ad-hoc wireless setup to your laptop? WTF?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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don't yell at me i very sensitive

i don't know what i have atm haha but when i turn off desktop i have no internet at laptop so should the router alone give me internet from the laptop ?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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It's a "wireless ready" router. Does it actually have wireless on it? Or do you need some sort of addon piece?

Anyway, if it is a wireless router and you have a wireless laptop Eithernet card then yes, it should run without the desktop on.

Things we need to know.

1. is your laptop a wireless connection?

2. is your PC a wireless connection?

3. Is your router a true wireless router?

4. (if you know how to find out) do you have internet connection sharing enabled on your desktop?
 

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Yes laptop is wireless

this is the access point router



Desktop is hard wired to same router from port 1

not sure if internet share is enabled at desktop

i was satelite connect so i disabled that network adaptor it was the old shared connection
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I with the other guys here....Huh?

This should be straight forward....

Cable Modem/DSL/ISP connection goes to the WAN/Internet Port.

Desktop goes to 1-4.

Renew the ip for the desktop to get a 192.168.1.X address.

Open internet browswer goto 192.168.1.1, username is empty, password is admin. Setup the wireless information (SSID, encryption, etc). Turn on laptop. COnfigure the same. Reboot and have a nice day.

You shouldn't need internet sharing thru the Destktop for the laptop to work.

Oh and unless you want to give away your net access....don't leave the wireless connection open and unprotected.

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Got it working
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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I'm on a DLINK, plug and play. Been using it over a year, I'm plugged in but have a couple laptops/desktops that are wireless.

Not to be a dumbsh@t, but...what do you mean by

"Oh and unless you want to give away your net access....don't leave the wireless connection open and unprotected."

I've heard of where neighbors tap into someone's service, how do you prevent it?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Forget the WEP it's useless. Enable MAC filtering.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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MAC filtering is even more useless if not combined with WEP. It would take me a whole 30 seconds to gather the packets, check out your MAC and spoof it for my own use. WEP/WPA should ALWAYS be used. It's MUCH more secure than simple MAC filtering.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Then I guess it would take a grand total of 1 min to get past the wep and the mac filtering for you, cause wep is a joke, it always has been.

If you are going to change your WEP key every 5min, then I suppose that would work (for atleast 4min), but who wants to go to all the hassle of doing that? Any 5 year old with simple War Driving tools (netstumbler, aircrack, aerosol, airjack, airfart...etc..etc.) can crack your WEP while standing next to your mail box.

I am not saying MAC Filtering/Authentication is the answer to your home Wireless security, however...fewer people have the advanced knowledge such as yourself.

For the time it takes the simple processor inside your linksys WAP to process the WEP authentication, you are better off to save what limited resources your WAP has, by simply turning it off.

If you want the best possible security, keep a baseball bat next to your front door, and go bash the guy pointing his yagi at your house. LOL

Then again, you could just wrap your house up in aluminum foil!!

 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Anything can be hacked eventually but you can do several basic things to protect your wireless connection.

1. Change default password on your router....
2. Make your SSID name something less than obvious
3. Disable SSID Broadcasting
4. Enable WEP, WPA or whatever the most secure encryption you have available.
5. Set your encryption level to the highest possible, probably 128 bit.
6. Enable MAC filtering.
7. Block any ping response your router may give.

Now granted, given enough time and desire, you can still be hacked...but most people aren't going to bother when your neighbor is "giving it away" for free by saying "Here I am, come on borrow some bandwidth"

If you need specific help, I'm willing to do so offlist if this is too boring for the rest...

vader716 <at> gmail <dot>com


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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Then I guess it would take a grand total of 1 min to get past the wep and the mac filtering for you, cause wep is a joke, it always has been.

If you are going to change your WEP key every 5min, then I suppose that would work (for atleast 4min), but who wants to go to all the hassle of doing that? Any 5 year old with simple War Driving tools (netstumbler, aircrack, aerosol, airjack, airfart...etc..etc.) can crack your WEP while standing next to your mail box.

I am not saying MAC Filtering/Authentication is the answer to your home Wireless security, however...fewer people have the advanced knowledge such as yourself.

For the time it takes the simple processor inside your linksys WAP to process the WEP authentication, you are better off to save what limited resources your WAP has, by simply turning it off.

If you want the best possible security, keep a baseball bat next to your front door, and go bash the guy pointing his yagi at your house. LOL

Then again, you could just wrap your house up in aluminum foil!!

Once again, your insane.

Question: How much data needs to gathered in order to crack a 128-bit WEP key?

Answer: roughly 7GB. Yes, SEVEN GIGAbytes.

Now, even if our online pal is downloading **** all night, it's still going to take more than a week to gather the amount of packets required for some punk to crack it. With more than 1/2 the residential WAPs unsecured, what moron is going to park outside his house for what will more than likely be several weeks to crack his WEP key?! SERIOUSLY , USE WEP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. It's more secure than people make it out to be. For home users, its more than enough for your piece of mind. For mission-critical biz-naz & high bandwidth users it's not since the potential is there to crack the key in 2-4 hours if the WLAN is maxed out.

Bottom line, use WEP. Live it, love it, learn it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Once again, your insane.
That, we agree on.

 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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It's possible to access the internet THROUGH another PC, XP comes with a built in utility called ICS (internet connection sharing) that allows computers on a network to use a PC as a router.

It works (in a very basic way) to get internet access to a computer on a LAN if you dont have a router...but a router is MUCH less hassle and much more configurable (port forwarding, filtering, for starters).
 
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