bigd999,
Quite possibly you aren't up to speed on the context of the comment.
Since sporky is vehemently anti Kerry and is so positive shrub is going to win, someone here suggested a duel
HERE.
I accepted HERE.
sporky wimped out
HERE.


So now you are up to speed on the references and context.

Have fun...

 

just a reminder I'm still waiting for my deragatory nickname too. Actually I'm a little hurt, but I know loudist has been busy, maybe after the election I'll get one.

 

01 XLT Sport;

My friend, you should not hold anything back. Why don't you tell us what you really think.

Registered Southern Democrat; but I think I'm going to vote....

 

So just because he dosent want to jump ship if the guy he wants in the office dosent get in makes him a coward?

Me thinks your logic is a bit flawed.

 

I must have missed that quote, last I heard, Kerry was still for ousting Saddam, he just would have gone about it differently. Maybe you can help me out with the quote where Kerry says there was no reason to go to war with Iraq.

 

As you can see, my good friend loudist, being the extreme liberal he is, has NO idea what “inclusive” actually means (loudist, it means to include everyone, even those that absolutely disagree with you and your beliefs). You see loudist, as the rest of the extreme liberals, practice “exclusive” in other words if you do NOT completely agree with everything they believe in then your OUT!!!

Since I KNOW President Bush will win reelection I was simple trying to lend a hand to someone I consider a friend, regardless we do not agree on anything, but still someone I respect for their point of view, someone I would even have a beer with but with one rule “no talking politics” LMAO.

I just felt, due to my principles, my background, and my beliefs it is wrong to ask someone to leave because others, possible many others, do not agree with anything they have to say. I made a comment in the post that is linked above in loudist quote, which I stated it is easy to argue your point when nobody is arguing back…

If it is a coward to be inclusive and believe that all people, even those who do NOT agree with me, have as much right to voice their opinion as I do then so be it, I shall be considered a very proud coward who will fight and argue to maintain ALL people’s right to voice their opinions, it’s part of my belief system, it is how I was raised and it is the republican way…


President Bush will be reelected by 3 – 6 points…

I would strongly encourage ALL to read the post where ”I wimped out”

 

I will...


Kerry: "It was the wrong war at the wrong time for the wrong reason..."

 

It goes along these lines, as memory serves....

"The President has made Iraq a focal point for terrorist, in a war we have no reason be in. One that the UN would not approve .....blah , blah , blah. "

Of course this was back when he was running to get nominated for the Democratic candidate. His message has changed little but the language has been all over the map on this issue.

Thanks 01 , just another example.

 

There's one simple difference between 01 XLT Sport and loudist about this so called challenge by loudist:

01 XLT Sport - A man who acts like a man.

loudist - A man who acts like a child.

I have a feeling that once Bush is declared the winner, loudist will vanish.

 

You both take snippets and use them out of context. It's actually a huge point where I disagree with Kerry. He has stated many times, including in the debates, that he still supports taking Saddam out, just not the methods used. As usual, you have only heard the points which support your cause, and missed all of the other facts.

 

I gave you what you asked for now it's your turn reciprocate.

Please complete the quotes that show they were taken out of context.

I will listen and try to see your point. People can say anything but should remember they have to live with what comes out of their mouths. Kinda like the Dixie Chicks....They didn't really mean what they said but it was taken out of context. Right!!

 

I keep hearing 3 to 6 points for the Bush victory. I personally think that it's going to be a larger margin of victory than that. Most of the polls are of 'likely voters'. There are a lot of unlikely voters going to the polls this year. I think Bush may come out of this one with a very clear mandate. I could be wrong. Everyone else seems to be calling it close.

 

Not like the Dixie Chicks at all, had you watched the debates, you would know what I meant. Who are you trying to fool? I could have John Kerry come right to your house and tell you he supports, and still would support, removing Saddam and you would still deny it. Just the same, here's a quote from the first debate

"I believe that we have to win this. The president and I have always agreed on that. And from the beginning, I did vote to give the authority, because I thought Saddam Hussein was a threat, and I did accept that intelligence.

But I also laid out a very strict series of things we needed to do in order to proceed from a position of strength. Then the president, in fact, promised them. He went to Cincinnati and he gave a speech in which he said, “We will plan carefully. We will proceed cautiously. We will not make war inevitable. We will go with our allies.”"

The rest of the debate text is a simple google search away. You have to actually read it, Kerry doesn't speak in catch phrases, so it requires a little thought, but I'm sure you can understand it if you try.

 

Your head is stuck in the debates, I was talking about before he won, the nominated candidate for the democratic party. That was his stance then, one of the reasons he is being called a flipper.

You can bring Kerry here, do you need the address? What kind of beer errr... wine does he like? This is one Vietnam Veteran that would like to debate him publicly, by the way, bring the news media with you.

Does Kerry think we went into this war from a position of weakness with our eyes wide shut? I think not!!!!

We have opposing opinions but what he says today is not what he said yesterday. Not a change in tactics but a complete change of strategy which in itself is extremely dangerous.

 

catsasssniffer,
You must have been one of the guys he was talking about in 1971 to the congress...
BTW, I didn't know there was a methadone clinic up there in Silverado.