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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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There is no excuse for this behaviour!

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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Chanting “Fallujah is the graveyard of Americans,” residents cheered after the grisly assault on two four-wheel-drive civilian vehicles, which left both in flames. Others chanted, “We sacrifice our blood and souls for Islam.’’

“The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep,” resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed said. Some of the corpses were dismembered, he said.

Beneath the bodies, a man held a printed sign with a skull and crossbones and the phrase “Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans.’’
Well here is the thing, they state they sacrifice their blood and soul for Islam and that Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans so perhaps it is time to send in the big bombers to level the whole FREAKING place and actual let the citizens there ”Sacrifice their blood and souls” and turn Fallujah into a parking lot for a new mall…
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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I agree. There is something seriously wrong with people who would mutilate someone that is already dead. For that matter there is something seriously wrong with people who would mutilate someone who isn't...

...where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?...
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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You have got to give it to those wretched little cowards, they get oppressed for years (can't hardly even practice their precious religion) under Saddam, when WE liberate THEIR country for THEM (while THEY don't lift a finger), they can't start protesting against us and killing and defiling the bodies american soldiers (who made it possible that their loved ones won't be taken and killed and raped) fast enough. The joke is that these people are not even resposible enough to govern themselves. They can't wait to get rid of us so they can all start trying to be the next brutal tyrant, except this time in the name of Allah, as opposed to the Baath party, Same old story different BS justification. Ungrateful cowards, these people are the lowest form of life on this planet. Is it too late to bring Saddam back and let him brutalize these scum again?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Saddam was the glue that kept the clans and parties in check. These people feared his brutality and rightly so. Trying to impose a democratic society on these people will be an excerise in futility. How the he!! are we ever going to get out of there. Thanks GWB.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Trying to impose a democratic society on these people will be an excerise in futility. How the he!! are we ever going to get out of there. Thanks GWB.

The same thing was said of the Japanese. I'm sure their gov't won't look like ours; but, there is still hope for them. Not all Iraqis behave this way. I never expected this to be easily accomplished; and, it won't be. One thing is for sure, if we don't maintain a presence in Iraq for a very long time, what we're doing will not last. It's going to take a serious commitment on our part to insure that this problem isn't passed down to our children, or grandchildren. It's barely manageable now. What would it have looked like in 20 years? How about 40? It's easy to talk about making the world a better place. It's another to actually step up and do something.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
...actual let the citizens there ”Sacrifice their blood and souls” and turn Fallujah into a parking lot for a new mall…
Desert Disney, has a better ring to it then Euro Disney ....
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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very well put ranger81.

couldnt agree more

from the looks of the scenery in the photo, they may all benefit from subscriptions to martha stewarts 'living' magazine also.

its obivous these animals dont see that we know what will make them content.

maybe martha can show them the way.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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It's easy to talk about making the world a better place. It's another to actually step up and do something.
But Odin, talking is all the liberals are good for!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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I agree, we need to bomb the crap out of them and pave the place over, then put little American flags there in rememberance of the soldiers they were mutilated.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by ranger81
Saddam was the glue that kept the clans and parties in check. These people feared his brutality and rightly so. Trying to impose a democratic society on these people will be an excerise in futility. How the he!! are we ever going to get out of there. Thanks GWB.
That makes absolutely no sense at all, unless of course you are of the liberal background…

So, if you’re consistent in your beliefs you would also agree we should leave rapist alone, all child molesters alone or just anybody alone since there is no reason to make things RIGHT and better.

Yes, thank you President Bush for finally showing that there is a man in charge of this country and is willing to put EVERYTHING including his own political *** on the line to do the right thing.

It was easy for Billy boy, he could talk the good talk but he was a man with no action whatsoever, a coward by all means. He couldn’t inhale properly or use little ***** properly in other words like ALL liberals he was ALL talk and NO action.

Never be afraid to fail, if you fear failure you will NEVER succeed in anything you try do…
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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I'm sure their gov't won't look like ours; but, there is still hope for them. Not all Iraqis behave this way.
This is a very true statement, in that not all Iraqis behave or even believe this way. 2/3 if not more do not support these radicals and the actions they are taking. Rather they fear them as much as Saddam and are affraid to speak out or act against them in fear of them.
What you almost never hear about are the good things that have happen over there since we have liberated them, but there again good news doesnt make a very compelling story for the head lines or nightly news.

Sled...
 
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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I agree, we need to bomb the crap out of them and pave the place over, then put little American flags there in rememberance of the soldiers they were mutilated.
The four burned and mutilated were not soldiers, they were civilians...(although there's the rumour that Blackwater is actually a cover for the CIA).

Not that it matters, but I happened to be proof-reading a papper for a freind and I'm still in "correction mode".

As far as the idea of "liberation" goes, I can easily understand how a lot of Iraquis may not view what we have done so far as "liberation"

For example, here's an interesting use of words earlier in this thread...
Originally posted by Ranger81
"Trying to impose a democratic society on these people will be an excerise in futility."
Fascinating...imposing a democracy...isn't that a contradiction of terms? Granted, that may not be what you meant but that may very well be how they see it.

Imagine for a moment if some country outside of ours, that had tons more money than us and a far greater military strength than we had, decided that our system of government doesn't fit their idea of what is right. So, they decide to LIBERATE us poor souls in the US and they bomb the chit out of Washington and capture all elected officlas and the Prez. How would you feel? Let's say this happens next week. Would you feel liberated? (This is a theoritical question kids...not an argument about how evil Saddam was etc....so before some of you fly off the handle supporting our liberation, think about this for a moment. The whole point of this is how you might feel about this and view it if you were on the receiving end of having your homeland turned into a battle field...irrespective of what may or may not be right or wrong or believed to be right or wrong).
 

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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I just want it remembered that the original reason for going to Iraq was to protect the US from immediate threat from WMD. The liberation and new goverment was only to be a side benefit for Iraq. I think it has become more of a priority now that the original reason has been proven ( or not) to be not so urgent or immediate!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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It was to force Saddam to comply with over 12 years of sanctions that HE agreed to comply with. WMD was only one issue that the liberal media has made the primary directive. He had the WMD and he also had 12 years to hide them or sell them to his friends so he could build more lavish palaces that he never even used to show how mighty he was instead of spending the money on feeding his people or providing clean water and electricity to his people. He showed how much he cared for his people by opressing them and gassing them.
 
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