Ok, that phrase in the pledge of alegence will be going to the supreme court to rule if it should stay or be dropped.
what do you think and how do you think the supreme court will rule?

Now myself, I think it should stay. The majority of people think so too, and the majority are supposed to rule. It also does not state a specific god, so it can be any religions god as said, or just dont say that frase if you dont like it.
What really pisses me off is that the twit that started this deal does not even have custody of the daughter he wants to protect from saying it and the daughter herself says she doesnt mind it in the pledge and is religious.

Even though I think it should stay, I believe the supreme court will rule to have it removed because of past stances on church and state. Also since it was not in the original pledge I think they will rule against it.

well just something to think about on hump day. Sled...

 

I think it should stay purely because it represents history and the founding of the country

 

This is just getting silly. We waste time on stuff like this, and people wonder why no real issues are ever resolved...
The next thing will be to take "In God we trust" off of our currency...

 

That's a tough one to call. First, as a conservative Christian I hope they rule to keep it in the pledge. But the guy that brought this case is a atheist and wants all references to God removed from anything related to the government.

That being said, our government is not a democracy, it's a republic. The majority does not rule. If it did the most people would vote to do away with taxes, traffic tickets, eminent domain and most anything else we feel the government sticks it's nose in.

I could go on, but I won't. My father always said the two things to avoid in a conversation was Politics and Religion. Oops. Sorry dad.

1mk

 

I am with 1MK on this. I normally don't get into issues about religion and politics, just thought I'd vote.

I hope it stays.

Will it? Doubt it. I think the courts will pull it.

If they ever start pulling the national anthem from baseball, football and NASCAR, I am going to raise holy hell.

 

I think it should stay!! But you're right, they will probably nix it because the precedence has been set and all references to God are being slowly wiped out. I find it very sad that one person or a handful of radical thinkers can change something that means so much to so many people. This is something that most of us grew up with and now they want to change it because one father doesn't want his daughter to have to say it. Then tell her not to say it, simple as that. Why should the rest of us have to change what we say for this one person? If you don't want to speak of God then don't but don't make the rest of us suffer for it

 

It will stay, as it should. It may have not have been there originally but I don’t think the court will rule against it. Main reason is it does NOT institute a particular God or religion and thus it does not come close to an issue about the separation of church and state.

The moron that brought the case is like any other liberal in where they will use ANYBODY to meet their objectives. It’s a really sad day in America when some moron puts his daughters well being last when it comes to his objectives.

Personally this guy should be brought up on child endangerment charges and sever at least 5 – 10 years behind bars to send a message to other parents DO NOT USE YOUR CHILDREN FOR YOUR OWN SELFISH GAIN!

 

it stays, as it should. how much money did this a$$ waste of the governments trying to do this? america was founded on one religion, sure, you have the freedom to choose whichever religion you want, but the country was founded on christianity. maybe he should go to some country where he could get killed for being athiest. let him go try and live a place like that for a while THEN come complain about the word God. lets send him where he doesnt have the freedom to be what he wants. somewhere that if he doesnt want the 'official' religion of the country, hes dead. christianity is still the 'official' religion of the US, and always will be, you just dont have to choose it if you dont want.

 

There is still that seperation of church and state thing.

Personally, if they are going to remove it from the pledge, then they'd better keep up with consistancy and remove it from all other aspects of the gov't (money, buildings, etc.) and quite honesltly I don't think many people want their tax dollars wasted on that.

 

you can read my opinion in the other post about religion.

 

I always thought it said: .....one nation, under dog.....

I think it should stay. It hasn't been there forever, I believe it was added in 1951, but it's there now.

I'm not a religious person, at all. I don't have anything against religion or the people who find peace in religion. I don't have a problem with a reference to "a" "god" in the pledge. I grew up saying this pledge every day I went to school. It is a part of our culture.

This country, and our society are really turning into a three ring circus side show (Tool fans have heard this before). It's totally ridiculous when there are people out there trying to do crap like this. There is so much crap going on these days. What a friggin joke! All this is just opening a door for a whole *****load of crap. Like Tool said in the song Aenima (for thoes of us familiar with Tool):.....Ma please flush it all away........ We're headed for the toilet, big time!

So even if this idiot atheist gets his way, I will continue to say:.....one nation, under dog......

 

Our country wasn't founded on Christianity. Actually very few of the authors of our Constitution were christians, almost all of them were Diests. They believed in a Diety (God), but weren't neccessarily Christian. So while our Country's beliefs and values were built around religion and the Church, it wasn't Christianity. My well thought out conclusion is...

 

"ONE NATION UNDER GOD" stays!

 

My understanding is that the Constitution states that the gov't will not make a law respecting or restricting religion. The Constitution does not stated that there cannot be any referecnes to religion. With that said I do not believe the Supreme Court has ruled in a manner consistant with those writings. I do not have a problem with the phrase in the Pledge, however I do not believe the Court will rule to allow its use in schools.

 

US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendment 1 reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I don't see where the words "one nation under God" can be construed to be unconstitutional. Is the pledge of allegience a law, enacted by congress? I don't believe it is, but I could be wrong. Even if it is, it isn't trying to establish a religion.
I believe taking it out is prohibiting my right to exercise my religion, and my right to exercise free speech, therefore to remove it from the pledge of allegience is unconstitutional. (I can be just as irrational as these anti religious zealots).