So if he runs 10s you'llbe quite, does this mean your in the 10s or are you 11.0s? still courious?

 

I edited my post, you posted the same time I did. No way I'm in the 10's yet unless I drag race with a steam roll slick in the back and drop the clutch at 5 grand, lol. Best ET I ever had was 11.3. I was saying if anyone is in the 10's they'd beat me down..., I wouldn't even try.

 

well, so much for noone getting mad , dont take it personal.

remember everyone, he is a f150 owner (at least he says he is, just look at his sig ), so he was just asking a question...waiting for the almighty L guys to flame me

 

Well I would have to disagree with that. First you’re comparing apples to oranges. Once you begin modifying anything it’s all over.

I am talking stock vs. stock and as far as I know there is not one stock Camaro that stands a chance against a stock Lightning and will make many Camaro owners frustrated day in and day out getting their *** handed to them by a “truck”.

Now, when you start modifying then its all about money. I am willing to bet that dollar for dollar you can modify a Lightning to put a whoop *** on a Camaro every day of the week and twice on Sunday and at the very least to hold its own.

At the end of the day you still have a stock performance “truck” beating a stock performance “car”, sad thing is that’s all the performance car is really built for “performance” as on the other hand the performance “truck” is built for much more…

 

As with any drag racing, it all depends on how deep your pockets are.

 

Hmm, valid point but I was talking heavily modded. That was my point. Lightly modded/stock, yes the lightning is a woop-*** ride. I didn't buy my Z28 to keep stock, it was modified the 2nd day I had it. I bought it for the sole purpose of modification.

As far as a stock L beating EVERY stock camaro(maybe anything under a 97), the ls1 equiped fbodies would match or edge out a lightning IMO. I BELIEVE stock L's run mid 13's?? If so the stock ls1's are running mid-low 13's so it would be a good run. But all the fbodies are discontinued anyways, so you really don't have to worry about them, or do you??

 

cars are small.

 

Why build up a Camaro?
It is NOT a sports car!

A Corvette or Viper is considered and classified a sports car, NOT A CAMARO.

Why build up a Camaro?

The structure of the car was never changed (majorly) since the late 80's and is is based on an archaic 5.7, why didn't chevy ever update the damn drive train? (besides the 6 speed manual)

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Why A LIGHTNING?

Well with under $500 you can get well into the 12's.

I can haul stuff in the bed or on the trailer.

It is a RARE vehicle, Camaro's and Corvettes are a dime a dozen.

How many American cars can the average citizen afford that puts out over 450 lbs/trq STOCK and over 380hp STOCK? (underrated by ford)

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Why did Chevy quit making the Camaro?
- Oh yeah, because the Mustang sales were KILLING it.
- to Compete with the Cobra, chevy would have to make it faster than the corvette, It's flagship car.


I could go buy a new lightning at a dealership today, to bad you can't do that with a Camaro.

 

Why flames? Were you intending to insult someone or something?

Hawkz28,

This is the type of question that only has one answer.

"If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer anyway."

I have owned 3 F-bodies since 1993 and miss them all. I wouldn't trade my Lightning for one; but, I would like to have another to play with, and alternate driving daily. Stock for stock, a Lightning will eat a pre '98 F-body alive (LT1). The LS1 edges it out though. Also, the Lightning is only 200 lbs. short of a 1/2 ton payload. There's nothing anemic about that.

 

My Brain Hurts

 

I think that's from too much

 

why build a camaro??

Easy..

A)cheaper then a vette
B)solid frame and live axle rear(not independent like a vette) I want a drag car so a independent rear would not be good. WHy does chevy have to change something that works. Drivetrain is good except for the rear, which is why they sell aftermarket 12 bolt drag rears.
C) Borg warner T56 manual trans
D) archeic pushrod v8? Pushrod V8's are proven engines, there is nothing wrong with them. i hear it all the time from the ricers with the VTEC saying how old school my motor is, haha, who has the last laf on that one. What do you think the baddest drag cars use?? Hemi's, which are pushrod V8's. I chose the "old" design 5.7 liter because of it's displacement and the ability for me to stroke it out and use a very genereous dose of N20.
E) They are discontinued, I really don't care, I have one in my garage. Just because they didn't sell well to the "average" buyer doesn't mean it's a crappy car, it means it appeals to different type of buyer. I agree the fbody has some quality issues(my ford is built much better, less rattles, etc) but i didn't buy a CAMARO to be a bmw.

Thats why,

 

You are correct Hawkz28. my friend from our local hang out has a (I believe) 2000 SS w/LS1, he's a GM dealer Mech. and had played w/airbox, throttle body&tune but was always unnerved that when ever we ran I (stock) would still be at his rear tire at the end. He has done a bit more since ,as I , except he has a 150-shot "wet kit" and I have none. If his bottle is empty or acting up I can edge him out, It's all great fun and speed is just a$$$$$$ away Hope you have a HAPPY NEW YEAR, and great times at the track

 

Ok, I stand corrected. I am not a well educated person when it comes to all the performance cars on the road. However, for me, I feel my money will be best spent on buying a Lightning (fingers crossed). First for the performance side of it, second for the style and character it has, and lastly because of the versatility it offers.

The Lightning to me is one of them rare vehicles that is developed with someone that had common sense…

 

no insults, just the L guys are a little sensitive sometimes thats all


not to change the subject, but isnt this a TRUCK site?...arent there camaro sites or something?...i really dont know!