Illegal Music
Illegal Music
Yeah bored so I thought I would ask whats your opinion on this RIAA vs. Downloaders?
I really fail to see how the RIAA is going to put 60 million people in jail or sue 60 Million people without the government getting involved on the people's side.
Also if they manage to take the programs that aloow music trade....what makes them think that it will stop? I mean Napster died and we found Kazaa. From Kazaa its liekly we could go underground.
I really fail to see how the RIAA is going to put 60 million people in jail or sue 60 Million people without the government getting involved on the people's side.
Also if they manage to take the programs that aloow music trade....what makes them think that it will stop? I mean Napster died and we found Kazaa. From Kazaa its liekly we could go underground.
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Originally posted by Apocalypse
Also if they manage to take the programs that aloow music trade....what makes them think that it will stop? I mean Napster died and we found Kazaa. From Kazaa its liekly we could go underground.
Also if they manage to take the programs that aloow music trade....what makes them think that it will stop? I mean Napster died and we found Kazaa. From Kazaa its liekly we could go underground.
I think it's a bunch of bull. Record sales actually went UP 20% for the top ten most downloaded songs on Napster, it just made people want to buy the whole album. If it's a band that I support, I buy the new stuff just because I support the band. If not, then it's a good thing I downloaded it, because I wouldn't want to spend non-refundable money for music I don't like! Next there will be a tax on the radio. I know, you all say "Well I bought the radio and there are tons of commercials that keep it free." Well, my friends, we all bought computers and pay for internet access, too, and there are more ads on the net than anywhere, so we should have free music, at least to a degree, even if you can't save it and burn it.
Pure greed on the record companies part IMHO. I use file sharing services once in a while but typically go out and buy the cd, if it sounds good. I think that more people will tend to buy music that they wouldn't have otherwise bought if they hadn't given it a test drive from free downloads.
I do the download thing. I only buy CD's from a few bands I really like. I just find it hard to buy a CD for nearly $20 when there's probably only 1 song I like. Besides, the constitution says free speech, so why not free music too...
I can kind of see their point, but instead of trying to sue the whole world, and pry into everyone's computer they should try to provide good, quality CHEAP downloads. I would probably consider buying just the songs I want (providing I can still sample stuff to know if I want to buy), but not at $1 a song...
I can kind of see their point, but instead of trying to sue the whole world, and pry into everyone's computer they should try to provide good, quality CHEAP downloads. I would probably consider buying just the songs I want (providing I can still sample stuff to know if I want to buy), but not at $1 a song...
Like everyone says, I never download songs of my fav. artist. I will always buy the original cd. Not that I buy a lot of cd's though.
I also like to point out that you pay taxes on cdrw's and stuff like that that goes to artists if I am correct.
Have you guys heard of the record companies latests trick.
They found a way to upload corrupted files on Kazaa.
Kazaa doesn't recognize these corrupted files.
Kazaa only checks the first 300 kb checksum or something like that.
Your downloaded song is useless this way.
Not that I got one, so far.
You?
I have noticed lately, software isn't as easy to get as it used to be on Kazaa.
I always want to test software before I go buy it.
I also like to point out that you pay taxes on cdrw's and stuff like that that goes to artists if I am correct.
Have you guys heard of the record companies latests trick.
They found a way to upload corrupted files on Kazaa.
Kazaa doesn't recognize these corrupted files.
Kazaa only checks the first 300 kb checksum or something like that.
Your downloaded song is useless this way.
Not that I got one, so far.
You?
I have noticed lately, software isn't as easy to get as it used to be on Kazaa.
I always want to test software before I go buy it.
First of all, I don't DL songs on the internet, but I think both sides have somewhat of a valid argument. I mean you can only DL one song at a time right? (not the whole album) and the quality isn't what you would play at full blast in your home sterio, or even in the newer, advanced car, or portable sterios these days. If you want a quality recording to play on these, you must BUY it. So given that if you like more than one song on an album, you probably will buy it, where is the harm? Maybe if more arists put more songs (doesn't have to be the whole song - the first 1/4 would do) on their website for us to check out, people wouldn't have to 'pirate' copies.
Here are some cases in point:
I know someone (from work) that has over 5,000 CD's and he sells burned copies. I know it is wrong, but after spending countless hours looking for an out dated album containing one peticular song for a freind, I gave up and asked him for a copy. It took him months to get it, but he got a used copy, which he burned for me. My friend only wanted one song, and I was willing to buy the whole CD legally, but it wasn't available. Not only that, it turned out to be a good thing because my friend actually broke the copy, so I had to get him another.
I recently got 4 CD's legally and one was a two album (greatest hits) set, which I later discovered I didn't like one song!! Appearently the songs he did that I like, didn't make his "Greatest Hits" album. I only like a little tiny bit of country, and I already have a nice collection of Rock, and Jazz CD's, so I decided to get some country ones. I got Emerson Drive, Rascal Flatts, Dierks Bently, (What was I thinkin?) and the one I didn't like was Alan Jackson. Anyway, I told Mr CD burner, and he told he he had AJ's GH album, and could have sold me a copy so I wouldn't have been out the $13 (it was on sale) Honestly if it was a burned copy, I would have thrown it away, but now I can't.
Then Mr CD burner tells me he will give me 18 burned copies of anything I want for my Emerson Drive, and Rascal Flatts, albums. I had a hard time explaining why I wouldn't do it. See if this makes sense: I took the album, and copied it to my HD, then made a playlist of my favorites so I can work and listen to the ones I like right? Well as long as I have the legal CD, then I have the license to listen to it on my PC. If I trade it away, then I shouldn't be enjoying it on my HD because I just got rid of my license to have it.
That folks, is bascically what a legal CD is: a license to play the music contained on it, wether it be a copy you burn for your car, the wma file you place on your HD, or the original CD you play in your home sterio. When you buy the legal CD, you have bought the license to use and enjoy what is contained on it.
Here are some cases in point:
I know someone (from work) that has over 5,000 CD's and he sells burned copies. I know it is wrong, but after spending countless hours looking for an out dated album containing one peticular song for a freind, I gave up and asked him for a copy. It took him months to get it, but he got a used copy, which he burned for me. My friend only wanted one song, and I was willing to buy the whole CD legally, but it wasn't available. Not only that, it turned out to be a good thing because my friend actually broke the copy, so I had to get him another.
I recently got 4 CD's legally and one was a two album (greatest hits) set, which I later discovered I didn't like one song!! Appearently the songs he did that I like, didn't make his "Greatest Hits" album. I only like a little tiny bit of country, and I already have a nice collection of Rock, and Jazz CD's, so I decided to get some country ones. I got Emerson Drive, Rascal Flatts, Dierks Bently, (What was I thinkin?) and the one I didn't like was Alan Jackson. Anyway, I told Mr CD burner, and he told he he had AJ's GH album, and could have sold me a copy so I wouldn't have been out the $13 (it was on sale) Honestly if it was a burned copy, I would have thrown it away, but now I can't.
Then Mr CD burner tells me he will give me 18 burned copies of anything I want for my Emerson Drive, and Rascal Flatts, albums. I had a hard time explaining why I wouldn't do it. See if this makes sense: I took the album, and copied it to my HD, then made a playlist of my favorites so I can work and listen to the ones I like right? Well as long as I have the legal CD, then I have the license to listen to it on my PC. If I trade it away, then I shouldn't be enjoying it on my HD because I just got rid of my license to have it.
That folks, is bascically what a legal CD is: a license to play the music contained on it, wether it be a copy you burn for your car, the wma file you place on your HD, or the original CD you play in your home sterio. When you buy the legal CD, you have bought the license to use and enjoy what is contained on it.
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Andthensometoo, just an FYI, by no means a flame. What you both are doing is illegal. You cannot for any reason copy any song from that CD you bought, to any media. It doesn't matter if you own the CD or not you break the COPYright as soon as you copy it... I don't really care though. I say if I buy it, it's mine, I can do whatever I want with it as long as I don't give copies away...
as to MP3 quality... in general it's so close to CD you can hardly tell the difference. I have an MP3 player in my truck, and rarely listen to regular CD's in my truck. For several reasons. If I break or scratch a CD I just go make another one. If a CD gets stolen, I just go make another one. Also, I can fit up to 100/150 songs on one CD...
Also, you can download as many songs as your connection will allow... Cable and DSL connections make downloading an entire album nothing at all...
as to MP3 quality... in general it's so close to CD you can hardly tell the difference. I have an MP3 player in my truck, and rarely listen to regular CD's in my truck. For several reasons. If I break or scratch a CD I just go make another one. If a CD gets stolen, I just go make another one. Also, I can fit up to 100/150 songs on one CD...
Also, you can download as many songs as your connection will allow... Cable and DSL connections make downloading an entire album nothing at all...
Originally posted by closer9
Andthensometoo, just an FYI, by no means a flame. What you both are doing is illegal. You cannot for any reason copy any song from that CD you bought, to any media. It doesn't matter if you own the CD or not you break the COPYright as soon as you copy it...
Andthensometoo, just an FYI, by no means a flame. What you both are doing is illegal. You cannot for any reason copy any song from that CD you bought, to any media. It doesn't matter if you own the CD or not you break the COPYright as soon as you copy it...
The reason I put them on my HD is twofold, 1) I can use the Playlist to play my favorite songs, without having to play an entire album, 2) saves wear and tear on the original CD.
btw, the CD says "unauthorised duplication is a violation of applicable laws." I think as long as I am not selling them, I may be OK.
Evidently not, ATST. I owned all of the Metallica albums that I downloaded songs from, and I still got sued and had to pay 136 dollars, even though I had already bought all of the albums, some of them many times over, and this is why I think it's a crock of crap. If I already bought it, I shouldn't have to pay because I downloaded it, too.
Originally posted by Pickup Man
Evidently not, ATST. I owned all of the Metallica albums that I downloaded songs from, and I still got sued and had to pay 136 dollars, even though I had already bought all of the albums, some of them many times over, and this is why I think it's a crock of crap. If I already bought it, I shouldn't have to pay because I downloaded it, too.
Evidently not, ATST. I owned all of the Metallica albums that I downloaded songs from, and I still got sued and had to pay 136 dollars, even though I had already bought all of the albums, some of them many times over, and this is why I think it's a crock of crap. If I already bought it, I shouldn't have to pay because I downloaded it, too.
btw, even though I mentioned it before, I do NOT DL songs from the internet, or 'share' my purchased music with other people by any means. File sharing is a HUGE security risk, besides being illegal as you noticed.
I bet if your on welfare you can download all the free music you want...
I mean they have everything giving to them to begin with, plus how sad would it be to see these broke di*k people on the news crying about getting sued for downloading some music.
The liberals would have a field day with it. "We should not being going after these poor lazy people, when we can go after those with the cash to pay for it"
I mean they have everything giving to them to begin with, plus how sad would it be to see these broke di*k people on the news crying about getting sued for downloading some music.
The liberals would have a field day with it. "We should not being going after these poor lazy people, when we can go after those with the cash to pay for it"
ATST, there for a while I had a home in Tennessee and a home in Virginia with a broadband connection at both places, and I have quite an extensive collection of music, so when I got to Tennessee, if there was a particular song that my band wanted to play, I would dig up the cd and listen to the music to learn how to play it. If I did not have the cd with me, I would d/l it. I never sold anything to anyone that I had d/l or copied from the original disc, and I never intended to. I completely boycott music from artists who are against filesharing now, and I hope that in some small way they will feel it in their pocketbooks if enough people do the same, but at least I can rest knowing that they aren't going to get any of my money ever again.


