Difference Between Air Force & Army
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From: Stinkin Joisey
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Well I would say Army and Marines, that would be the same for me. Yes we did work many hours on the flight deck, but being on the front lines that is some serious sh*t. We use to have to worry about jets crashing, but at least you kind of had some warning, them people on the front line never know when some moron is going to pop up and explode themselves...
I am with you on this Gator...
Well I would say Army and Marines, that would be the same for me. Yes we did work many hours on the flight deck, but being on the front lines that is some serious sh*t. We use to have to worry about jets crashing, but at least you kind of had some warning, them people on the front line never know when some moron is going to pop up and explode themselves...
I am with you on this Gator...
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From: Kellyville, Oklahoma
I definetly have a healthy respect for the guys on the ground, thier dangers and harsh conditions are very obvious and real, but don't mistake sea duty as a cake walk:
16 hour work days 6-7 days a week (And that's during peacetime and not including drills, GQ, training, etc)
Vunarable to attack from surface to surface missles, air to surface missles, chemicals, mines, deck guns, torpedoes, submarines, small craft fire. If you're not killed in the initial attack, you still have to worry about putting out the fires and not sinking the ship.
650,000 gallons (on a small ship, 2 1/2 million on larger ships) of fuel designed to burn (Diesel, kerosene, JP-5 Jet Fuel, gasoline) in dozens of fuel tanks just below the lower decks and easily ignited by the above mentioned weapons.
Loading, storing, and handling shells, missles, torpedoes, rockets, ammunition, etc carried on board throughout a ship that's pitching and rolling in heavy seas.
Weeks to months at sea without seeing land sometimes in 18-20' seas where you can't eat or sleep.
9 months away from home port each year even during peacetime. (longer during wartime)
Enginerooms with very high pressure, high temerature steam that will cook you as it cuts you in half, and turbine blades rotating at near the speed of sound that will go through several inches of steel (not to mention flesh) if they come apart.
I could go on and on but hopefully I've made my point. EVERY branch of the military has thier purpose and ALL branches get thier chance to relax and unwind. That doesn't mean they get to goof off all of the time or don't work hard in hazardous & uncomfortable environments.
I've got to admit though, being able to eat a variety of hot food every meal no matter where you were, was a MAJOR advantage!
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
16 hour work days 6-7 days a week (And that's during peacetime and not including drills, GQ, training, etc)
Vunarable to attack from surface to surface missles, air to surface missles, chemicals, mines, deck guns, torpedoes, submarines, small craft fire. If you're not killed in the initial attack, you still have to worry about putting out the fires and not sinking the ship.
650,000 gallons (on a small ship, 2 1/2 million on larger ships) of fuel designed to burn (Diesel, kerosene, JP-5 Jet Fuel, gasoline) in dozens of fuel tanks just below the lower decks and easily ignited by the above mentioned weapons.
Loading, storing, and handling shells, missles, torpedoes, rockets, ammunition, etc carried on board throughout a ship that's pitching and rolling in heavy seas.
Weeks to months at sea without seeing land sometimes in 18-20' seas where you can't eat or sleep.
9 months away from home port each year even during peacetime. (longer during wartime)
Enginerooms with very high pressure, high temerature steam that will cook you as it cuts you in half, and turbine blades rotating at near the speed of sound that will go through several inches of steel (not to mention flesh) if they come apart.
I could go on and on but hopefully I've made my point. EVERY branch of the military has thier purpose and ALL branches get thier chance to relax and unwind. That doesn't mean they get to goof off all of the time or don't work hard in hazardous & uncomfortable environments.
I've got to admit though, being able to eat a variety of hot food every meal no matter where you were, was a MAJOR advantage!
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
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From: Fife, WA
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Yep, or you put a dent into a multimillion dollor jet...
Yep, or you put a dent into a multimillion dollor jet...
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From: NH
Originally posted by dbarbee
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
We had a Gonzo station deployment back in the early 80's for 137 days on station. Man that SUCKED, hot and long days. 6 days a week of 14 - 16 hours of flight operations, you would average about 5 - 6 hours of sleep.
At one of the steel beach BBQ we were stopped at sea and man there were hundreds of sharks all over the place. A Senior Cheif actually caught one fishing off the fan tail. It wasn't a huge one about 2 feet long, don't know the weight, but they cooked it in the Cheif's mess.
When I was in there were NO swim calls, well unless you got blown over the side by jet blast...
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From: The Bluegrass State
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Oh, by the way are you a Shellback? or Slimy Wog?
Oh, by the way are you a Shellback? or Slimy Wog?
WTH does that mean?
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From: Stinkin Joisey
Originally posted by dbarbee
I definetly have a healthy respect for the guys on the ground, thier dangers and harsh conditions are very obvious and real, but don't mistake sea duty as a cake walk:
16 hour work days 6-7 days a week (And that's during peacetime and not including drills, GQ, training, etc)
Vunarable to attack from surface to surface missles, air to surface missles, chemicals, mines, deck guns, torpedoes, submarines, small craft fire. If you're not killed in the initial attack, you still have to worry about putting out the fires and not sinking the ship.
650,000 gallons (on a small ship, 2 1/2 million on larger ships) of fuel designed to burn (Diesel, kerosene, JP-5 Jet Fuel, gasoline) in dozens of fuel tanks just below the lower decks and easily ignited by the above mentioned weapons.
Loading, storing, and handling shells, missles, torpedoes, rockets, ammunition, etc carried on board throughout a ship that's pitching and rolling in heavy seas.
Weeks to months at sea without seeing land sometimes in 18-20' seas where you can't eat or sleep.
9 months away from home port each year even during peacetime. (longer during wartime)
Enginerooms with very high pressure, high temerature steam that will cook you as it cuts you in half, and turbine blades rotating at near the speed of sound that will go through several inches of steel (not to mention flesh) if they come apart.
I could go on and on but hopefully I've made my point. EVERY branch of the military has thier purpose and ALL branches get thier chance to relax and unwind. That doesn't mean they get to goof off all of the time or don't work hard in hazardous & uncomfortable environments.
I've got to admit though, being able to eat a variety of hot food every meal no matter where you were, was a MAJOR advantage!
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
I definetly have a healthy respect for the guys on the ground, thier dangers and harsh conditions are very obvious and real, but don't mistake sea duty as a cake walk:
16 hour work days 6-7 days a week (And that's during peacetime and not including drills, GQ, training, etc)
Vunarable to attack from surface to surface missles, air to surface missles, chemicals, mines, deck guns, torpedoes, submarines, small craft fire. If you're not killed in the initial attack, you still have to worry about putting out the fires and not sinking the ship.
650,000 gallons (on a small ship, 2 1/2 million on larger ships) of fuel designed to burn (Diesel, kerosene, JP-5 Jet Fuel, gasoline) in dozens of fuel tanks just below the lower decks and easily ignited by the above mentioned weapons.
Loading, storing, and handling shells, missles, torpedoes, rockets, ammunition, etc carried on board throughout a ship that's pitching and rolling in heavy seas.
Weeks to months at sea without seeing land sometimes in 18-20' seas where you can't eat or sleep.
9 months away from home port each year even during peacetime. (longer during wartime)
Enginerooms with very high pressure, high temerature steam that will cook you as it cuts you in half, and turbine blades rotating at near the speed of sound that will go through several inches of steel (not to mention flesh) if they come apart.
I could go on and on but hopefully I've made my point. EVERY branch of the military has thier purpose and ALL branches get thier chance to relax and unwind. That doesn't mean they get to goof off all of the time or don't work hard in hazardous & uncomfortable environments.
I've got to admit though, being able to eat a variety of hot food every meal no matter where you were, was a MAJOR advantage!
01 XLT Sport
Nope, never saw any sharks, & none of my Captain's allowed swim calls. Most of our steel beach picnics involved BARBECUE!!
As for playing football on a flight deck, take my word for it, non-skid on a steel deck HURTS when you hit it!
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Originally posted by wannanicecar
01....im guessing you watch the Army Navy games right???
how about the last one????? HOLY CRAP WHAT A GAME!!!
01....im guessing you watch the Army Navy games right???
how about the last one????? HOLY CRAP WHAT A GAME!!!
And Bush other things...
Bush and Busch are NOT the same thing
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From: New Orleans LA
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Originally posted by dbarbee
I definetly have a healthy respect for the guys on the ground, thier dangers and harsh conditions are very obvious and real, but don't mistake sea duty as a cake walk:
----Lotsa Blackshoe whining snipped
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Ahh yes, seaduty. I remember it fondly. Five star hotels and U$200 a day perdiem. I miss life in a P-3 Squadron.
True incident with a Carrier battlegroup:
(P3) Battlestar, this is Blue Goose 22, radar contact.
(Carrier) Blue Goose 22 can you id the contact?
(P3) Battlestar, it's, it's, oh my God!! It's gigantic!!!
(Carrier) Blue Goose 22, what is it? Do you need assistance!!!????
(P3) It's our perdiem checks, they're soooo big, humongous!!
(Carrier) #^$&% %#@# %#!!@$ !#%#@$% $!@!@#
(P3) Errrr, Battlestar, could you turn off your misslelock?! We're leaving already.
Fritz
P-3 Techrep NAS New Orleans
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Originally posted by dbarbee
I definetly have a healthy respect for the guys on the ground, thier dangers and harsh conditions are very obvious and real, but don't mistake sea duty as a cake walk:
----Lotsa Blackshoe whining snipped
---Ahh yes, seaduty. I remember it fondly. Five star hotels and U$200 a day perdiem. I miss life in a P-3 Squadron.
True incident with a Carrier battlegroup:
(P3) Battlestar, this is Blue Goose 22, radar contact.
(Carrier) Blue Goose 22 can you id the contact?
(P3) Battlestar, it's, it's, oh my God!! It's gigantic!!!
(Carrier) Blue Goose 22, what is it? Do you need assistance!!!????
(P3) It's our perdiem checks, they're soooo big, humongous!!
(Carrier) #^$&% %#@# %#!!@$ !#%#@$% $!@!@#
(P3) Errrr, Battlestar, could you turn off your misslelock?! We're leaving already.
Fritz
P-3 Techrep NAS New Orleans