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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Yea, democrats are all about bashing the republican party and pitting as many people against it. Have you heard the crap some are saying now?.....that the republicans have an agenda to oppress minorities, gays, blacks, mexicans, etc.!! The Democratic party is absolutely disgusting!
They blew the whole confederate flag issue out of proportion and put a political spin on it for their own gain. They cause uproar and controversy where there shouldn't be.
The Georgia flag issue was a non-issue until the democrats saw that they could gain some political spotlight from it.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Let's see. By my last review, this country is facing:

1) Illiteracy in our school system.
2) Poverty in a number of areas of our population.
3) An economy that is faltering.
4) An every growing national security problem.

With all these real issues (and many more) staring them in the face, these moronic idiots instead turn their attention to what's on a 'state' flag. After all, that's emmanently more important than teaching children to read or feeding the hungry!

You know, here in Orlando once a year, the Gay and Lesbian community fly their flags throughout downtown. I don't agree with it, nor do I like it, but you know what? It doesn't turn my focus away from the problems here locally that are really important. Recongnize this sh*t for what it realy is: a special interest group trying to vie for a little national attention and publicity.

A question to any of you who disagree with my comments. What response do you think a group of my caucasion friends and fellow workers would get if we approached state government here and required them to change the Florida state flag because we found it offensive in some way. I think the response would go something like, "not a snowballs chance in h*ll!"
 
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by MyFordTruck98
They blew the whole confederate flag issue out of proportion and put a political spin on it for their own gain.
They only reason the confederate flag became an issue is when a Republican became your governor. It was "never" an issue when the Democrat ran your state, nor when they were the "first" to fly it on the state building...

Another sad fact is many, not all, but many democrats can NOT wait for another terriost attack to happen in America so they can have it as an issue for a "failed" Bush administration attempt at homeland security.

The fact is, one day there will be another terriost attack here in America there is no getting around it. The other fact is there is NO way to prevent 100% that one will never happen. It that was true it would be magic, and we all know there is no magic.

The democrats at this time do NOT want to see Clintons recession end and for the economy to get better. To do so means they would once again LOSE big time.

It is truly sad that for Democrats to win and make progress it requires people to suffer, to die, to fail, and to basically be hopeless. Why do you not think minorities are better off today. it is because the Democrats have been successful at making them believe they are the party to elect. It is funny it has taken over 40 years for some minority groups to realize they have been taking as "fools".
 
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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They only reason the confederate flag became an issue is when a Republican became your governor. It was "never" an issue when the Democrat ran your state, nor when they were the "first" to fly it on the state building...
Well, what I meant was that no one really pissed and complained about it until that democrat Roy Barnes, got scared with the south carolina fiasco and decided to change the flag right out from under our noses over night. He didn't even give us a chance to vote. And then when people like me started to point out his treachery, the democrats started their spin campaign. All because we support due process of government and you know how democrats hate rules( like clinton lying under oath).
Arrrg, the world we live in, go figure.

But you have some wise words 01 XLT Sport.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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MyFordTruck98:

I understand what your were saying, and agree with everything you have said. That's why I was saying it was a "non" issue untill you guys got a Republician in office and then everyone came out of the wood work to complain about a flag your state has been flying for years.

As far as I am concerned I don't look at your state like "they don't know what they are doing" I think your state is fine. However in my opinion the democrats nationally have taken this issue of a flag and made themsleves look like whiners of the past for a lost cause and trying to stir up more hate (of which the democrates thrive on) towards the majority from the minority. It is only a small crowd of the "repressed by choice" who have a problem most of the other American's of color think for themselves and are begining to show more and more how they NOW know they have been screwed by the democrates for over 40 years.

Sad it takes that long for one to learn, but as I have always said sometimes the facts suck, but they still remain the facts...

I just feel bad for your state right now having to be invaded by others looking to keep their power control over the people and "repressing" the majority of people to make a few "losers" feel good.

For those of you that still think slavery is an issue it is NOT, it is DEAD, and nothing is going to be done about it. It has been corrected over 100 years ago. It is time to move on and quit whining about a DEAD horse. If some don't think they have a fair shot here in America I say "Get the Fu*k out" and go to where you "think" it is better. Fact is there is NO where that is better, and America is the only country that people who want to be repressed can do so "freedom of choice" otherwise there is NO repression here of ANY race.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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We have had the same problem here in Florida in a town called Lake City, just wast of Jacksonville. Actually, I think that is where all of this started. They also had a mural in their city hall that they had to take down because of something that was one it. Like BigDeal mentioned, there are way more important issues going on in the world, than a flag.

What I want to know is why do people bring something up after it has been there for all of these years. These flags have been flying for over a 100 years and now all of the sudden, someone doesn't like them. I just get tired of all of the black vs white issues that we are having around us today. I know many black people and they are some of my best friends. There are good ones and bad one, just like whites have good and bad people.

It is the ones that holler discrimination everytime that they don't get their ways that are making all of the rest of them look bad. Like at my parents job, probably at least half of the employees are of other ancestry. When they have a layoff or people get fired, many of the white people who have been there longer are generally the first to go, because the company is afraid that they will call the NAACP and sue them.

Many people are taught in school that the civil war was about slavery and nothing else, but like you guys suggested it really wasn't. One of the reasons that black people are looked at today as being the way that they are is not because of slavery, but because many of them have gotten into drugs and crime at very early ages and because they tend to live in a small area of the city they are in. And they tend to think that white people are better than them.

As for the flag, I think that we have a right to have one, but maybe it should not be on the capital building if that is what the people want, not one person or a small group. If they want it down, the best way to handle it would be to vote on it. Let the people decide if they want it, if they do, then the opposing party is just out of luck and it becomes a dead issue.

My only question is why now, why not years ago when it was put up. My only guess is that the opposing party can benefit from it and make money by sueing if for discrimination if they don't take it down. So the governments are forced to take it down immediately to avoid legal battles, which is why they don't have votes by the public to decide. I guess many black people today, remeber the 60's and the way that they were treated and what happened to them then, and they still don't forgive the white people for that. I just wish that all of this would end. Like I said, I have nothing against anyone, whether they are black, white or from any other country. But until everyone learns to get along, things like this will always be happening.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Republicans suck
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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My personal answer to “why now” would be reparations, they have been trying the past few years to get something to help reparations get a hold on the public. The funny thing is there are many black American’s that do not believe in reparations while there are some looking for the “big payday”.

For those not familiar with what reparations are about it is this:

Some black American’s believe they are due money for their ancestries being slaves and not being paid for their service, and for living in the conditions that they did. It is basically a type of law suit suing descendants of the slave owner’s. To be honest I have no idea if any of my ancestries ever owned slave’s but even if they did “tough sh*t” now, that was then this is now.

I can NOT and will NOT be held accountable for something that was legal at the time. Though, as I have stated, I feel is was wrong in this time and age I still had absolutely no control over what happen hundreds of years ago.

You could equate it to this:

Today it is legal to own and operate Ford trucks, or any truck for that matter. Let’s say 200 years from now they decide that us truck owners had done something wrong by owning trucks, be it polluting the air or what have you, but yet those that own small car’s today had done nothing wrong. If you follow the logic of these moron’s today looking for reparations it would be the same as say those descendants of the small car owners could sue the descendants of us truck drivers for something that “at this time” is legal.

It makes no sense, has absolutely no logic what so ever and that is why there will be NO big pay day for those looking for reparations, I can tell you this, if it were to come that reparations was going to happen the money would come from US, through the federal government taking OUR tax money and giving it to those seeking reparations. If that was to happen I, as I would imagine, thousands of others would simple stop paying any federal taxes ever again. If that were to happen you would have basically a complete break down of the federal government. No money to pay for needed programs (needed as in NOT the social programs). If you had a break down of the federal government you would have a complete melt down of the economy.

There are those in government much smarter then I that know this and will insure reparations is nothing more then a fantasy. However in the mean time until the brain dead realize they will never see any free money from reparations the democrats will continue to use it as an issue to continue to put a barrier between races and keep the race fight going for years to come.
 

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