so what are you missing here? If a one world goverment happpend it wouldnt be called the USA. That wouldnt work out, just read some of the above.

As for the masons, they arent exaclty in the "higher up." There are very few masons that ever achieve the level needed to know any of this. For the most of them its a normal religion\lodge meeting type of setup. They in no way profit or gain from any of this. Look up the phrase "global elite" , or the "light barers"

 

Konig - checked through that site and without going into details some of it is very interesting, other parts of it seems to be like an X-Files fans wet dream minus Gillian Anderson. Overall if half that stuff happened it wouldn't surprise me, even though some sounds like a turned down Hollywood script.

Go back and re-read your first post in this thread. No where did you state that. You stated that you didn't like those pulling strings for personal gain to rule the world. Very big difference. And I'm still waiting on what the personal gain is though

Also, like 01 XLT Sport said, most of us are just joking about nuking them. There are alot that are firm believers of just making Iraq a glass parking lot, but those are the ones that are the complete oppossite extreme of those who whine give peace a chance. You will always have extreme oppossites in everything, it's just something that is.

But IMO, *most* of the people with common sense agree almost 100% with this:
Which is exactly how I hope it turns out in the end.

Problem is though to do that when we are fighting creatures that do this:
from: http://newsobserver.com/nc24hour/ncn...-2217701c.html

It's stuff like that which gives the general population the 'nuke em all' attitude. Seriously how are we to fight a war and keep innocent causulties to a mininum when our enemies have basically wiped their @ss with the Geneva Convention?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Konig
[B]thanks for re-posting my post, as if no one could scroll up to see it.

Re-readit, i did not simply re-post it,for someone that does a lot of reading, how did you not catch that?

BTW you would lose your head for these ,if you were living in Iraq also.

 

Catch what? the part you wrote at the bottom? I saw it, I was just saying that there was no need to re-post that whole previous post again.

thats nice, again didnt say iraq was a free country, or that I dont enjoy living here in luxery like I do.




I didnt mean that I said that word for word. It has been my general comment this whole time. Notice how my first post followed a bunch of posts about blowing everything up? About wanting " BOOM x10" and what not. The personal gain for the wealthy is more power over the way regular people's lives run. We dont know what its like to be power hungry in that mannor. Most people are not that way and dont understand how the power hungry desire it so much.


captainoblivious: Thank you for at least taking the time to read some of what I have been trying to say. I agree not everything on that web site can be taken as fact. (never said that you could) The job of seperating the fact from fiction lay on the shoulders of the reader. There are some very creepy facts on that site though that I thought you all should be aware of, and of course the guy who hosts the site is a bit over board as Im sure you can all tell. I can tell the difference between a rational train of thought based on facts vs. someone's "X-File" wet dream just like you can.

Listen, I in no way intended to start a posting war with anyone on this web site. You guys should know Im not crazy and Im not a jerk. I post on the lightning boards all the time with the rest of you. Everyone I have met at the track and from the FLA site know Im 100% normal in every way. I just wonderd into this section of the web site and saw something I disagreed with. Take what you will from this thread, but dont ever stop trying to learn about the possibilities

 

Hey Konig, I like your style..... Nice posts, you appear to be keeping your head above water.... but there's a lot of people trying to drown you.

 

well, I wouldnt say they are trying to drown me. Its just hard to be heard when no one seems to share your point of view what so ever. I have just tried my best to share some of what I have read about. Its up to them if they want to ignore me and call me a nut, its their right to do so, even though it would make for a more educational\productive conversation if those types of negative comments werent a part of it.

thank you though for the encouraging comment

 

Reading is against my religious beliefs, I'm a practicing illiterate, but you're about to make me defy religion and read some of your selections.
thanks,

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Konig
[B]Catch what? the part you wrote at the bottom? I saw it, I was just saying that there was no need to re-post that whole previous post again.

konig, like i said re-read your post that i re-posted and you will see why i re-posted the whole thing.....read between the lines...it is not just your post,i added to it.

 

I'm for blowing up the city, but not the innocent people in it. I've heard we could lose half of our forces if we have to go door to door through the city. I say it's win-win if we just ask everyone to leave, and then drop lots of those new 22,000 lb bombs on the city. I'm probably wrong, and it'll never happen anyway. I just wonder what the planned response is if they use chemical or biological weapons and kill lots of coalition troops (and their own civilians).

 

I have some spare quarters, any one up for some video games?

 

I keep seeing someone making noise about how we supplied Bio-Chem weapons to Saddam. Where's the proof? Where do your "facts" stem from?

Yes we did sell them conventional weapons to fight Iran but it seems they are outdated and unused today.

Their armament comprises of Kalashnikov AK-47, a couple models of the Russian TU tanks and APCs. Their aircraft are a few variations of MIGs and Mirage(French). They have developed their own artilery and have some Russian made as well.

Am I missing something here? I don't see any American made armament in use. Where's the F4s and M14s????

 

I dont believe we ever supplied Iraq any nukes. Its hard to say where chemical weapons can come from, they dont travel on the market the same as regular weapons and bombs do. We certainly dont supply them with any sort of jets or modern
m-14/16 rifles..

this is a list of the weapons they have..

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ons/index.html



http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arming_iraq_1.html

read some of this article, parts of it are interesting. Especially the list of american/over seas companies involved. Wonder why the goverment took so long going over the declaration documents Iraq supplied?

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/psychopath.html


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...924172,00.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews...l&siteid=50143

 

Konig,
I would agree with some of what they say but the website's name is cause for skepticism.

 

yeah I know, the guy who hosts the web site is somewhat over the edge a bit. He does make some very valid points when he stays with the facts. Just use your best judgement and dont let the article writer's point of view bother you. Form your own view from the facts that the site contains. Its a good source for links to other british/scotish news sources. You would be suprised how differently some of those euro news agencies' stories differ from the ones we read about here and see on tv.