A man was on the radio today saying he was at a peace demonstration in Toronto yesterday as an observer only. He said when others stated their opinion, that Bush was right, they got violent and started pushing people back. They did not want to hear other opinions. Now why would a peace activist get violent when hearing other opinions? Why were they really there?

 

Personally, I hate demonstrators.
Buncha sandal wearing, hippie wanna bes, pseudo intellectuals.

I think they have a right to protest if that's what they chose, but when they start interfering with peoples lives (blocking traffic and such), then they need a good old fashioned beating.

Not a simple beating, but a long lasting, hardcore beating from the heart.

Maybe one day I'll tell y'all how I really feel

Habibi

 

Now that is funny...

 

It should be said that we are all entitled to what we believe. Opinions are part of the democratic society in which we live. Thank god we have the right to an opinion.

It is our cival duty to question our leaders if you do not agree with their stance or action.

A lot of things on this earth sound good by theory. Take, for instance, communism. We aren't in a perfect society. It never will be...

One very important point, that I feel should be brought to the surface is this: How can one protest for peace with violence? It simply voids and nulls all that you're standing up for and want to succeed.

Now, with that being said; my opinion.

I'm very much pro-war. I sincerely believe that we should've taken care of the problems there when we liberated Kuwait. We are there for a reason and the reason is clearly a clear and present danger to Americans. It is our obligation, not our choice, to carry out this operation and remove, by force, any imminent threat to our freedom. Saddam, in my opinion, represents a significant threat, and has for many years.

God bless America and all the men and women in uniform.

RP

 

RockPick:

You and Habibi have stated it perfectly and I strongly agree.

Freedom of speech is for everyone, for me, for you and for those that I absolutely disagree with.

Where freedom of speech ends in my book is when it turns into some form of violence or obstruction.

The United States Constitution’s First Amendment guarantees that every American has the right to freedom of speech as well as to “peacefully” assembly to voice their grievances with the government.

No where in the United States Constitution does it state or give anyone the right to harass other citizens, cause personal or property damage, cause disruptions in business’s, to block public or private throughways, or cause any harm in any way to any individual.

Just because they are in the very small minority and can not get anybody to agree with them does not give them a right to do what they are doing.

They can chant all they want to, call the President or people like me names, and I will do everything in my power to insure they can do that for it is their “guaranteed” right to do so.

 

I am not totally for this war that is going on, BUT I do say that they need to do what they have to do and I will support them for that. I just do not understand these protesters. There are some things that you can protest about and eventually things will get changed. But I do not care how long and hard they protest, there is nothing that anyone can do to stop this war until it is announced that it is over. What I want to know is how many of these people took off work or other important things, to go to these protests. Most of the jobs I know of would fire you for doing that. If the protest was for a worthy cause and something could be changed because of it, I say maybe but other than that these people are just stupid.

Like I said, I don't agree with every aspect of this war, but I am not going to go to these protest and start fights. For one thing, it is not going to solve the problem. And second, doesn't that make the protestors as bad as the other side. You have troops going over seas to stop the bad guys over there, and you have the police and other law enforcement over here to stop the people.


That is a great question. It makes no sense to me for someone is calling for peace to get violent when they hear someone elses opinions. Isn't that contradicting the reason why they are there to begin with. Everyone has their own opinions and beliefs, but that is not a reason to start a fight with someone because that person has different opinions and beliefs then they do. Many of these protestor were brought up to believe that something is wrong so when they are older they can't distinguish between what is real and what they were brought up to believe.

 

The nut case protesters that are responsible for violence are the same ones running around mouthing how “we” all should be “tolerant” of others.

Problem is, they are all for “tolerance” so long as you agreeing with them. As soon as you disagree with them they throw “tolerance” out the window…

 

Paulv107 highlights a very interesting point about how ignorant these protestors truly are. If a person or group wants to prevent something from happening, that person or group should go and protest it before it begins. We're currently knee deep in Iraq right now, and the BS that 1000, or for that matter 5000 protestors are pulling in San Francisco or Chicago is not going to change the direction of the US military one bit. Do you really think these people are true intellectuals if they don't understand this simple point. Also, these folks resorting to violence at their peace rallies only further supports my contention of their lack of intellect.

Best suggestion to stop this nonsense, have the press stop televising it. If it didn't make it onto the evening news, very few of these morons would actually show up for the next peace rally.

 

These people could not care less about the war. They are there to try to prevent a Republican president from being successful in another foreign problem. Where were they when Clinton sent troops into Kosovo to overthrow Milosovich (sp?) without UN sanction or approval from congress, both of which Bush has now? When FOX news asked Garrafalo that question her answer was “it wasn’t hip to protest against Clinton.” So they are there because it is hip!

As for what jobs they can leave to do these demonstrations, have you looked at those people? They are professional protesters and probably live on welfare. Also check out the sponsors of the events. Most of them are affiliated with the communist party.

 

 

I think RTWINGER hit right on the head. They aren't so much pro-peace as they are anti-Bush. They are a bunch of closed-minded liberals that are pissed off that they are in the minority now. They can't get over the fact that their people continue to lose elections, and that the majority of the voters in this country are conservative. They're angry...they're pissed...they're vocal...they use lame excuses. I know, I have a stupid sister-in-law that's one of them!

 

I think you are correct.

MikeF150 is a good example of a liberal. In this thread and others he has done a hell of a job deleteing all his post. Goes to show they have no creditability or charter to stand behind what they "think" they believe, truly sad...

 

I watched the UK news about a peace march in London today.
They showed film of the march and interviewed a lot of people who stated their objections to the war.

Do you want to know what really chapped my ***?
Approximately 90% weren't even BRITISH.

The UK has a huge problem at the moment with refugees claiming asylum here. Just turn up and go straight onto welfare.
They get money, cars, houses the lot and our govt. doesn't understand. IF YOU PAY PEOPLE TO TURN UP, THEY WILL. DUH !!!

Anyway, before you all start to hate me, I would like to say that I am the least racist person I know.
I have friends of all colours and religions. I do not care whether you are Black, White. Green, Gay, Straight or whatever. If you are ok then you are ok.
I have no problem with genuine refugees. Britain has always accepted people in need but the majority of these people are economic migrants. Pure and simple.

I just don't think it's on to accept another countries (mine) hospitality and then protest about it.

 

You know as well as i do that the media is made up of 90% bleeding heart liberals.

I keep hearing about pro Bush and support are troop ralleys on certain radio talk shows, but as of now, i have seen no Media coverage of any of these....who would have thought

 

Everyone knows that the media will almost always shows the bad things that are happening. They hardly ever show the good things. The media will only show what the public wants to see. They go around showing all of these protests of the war and violence that these people show. But they never go and show the people who support something. If there isn't some sort of contreversy or violence to go along with it, the media probably will not show it. Therefore it will not be interesting enough for most people.

That would work, but it will never happen. The press televises it because it is interesting. Even though I can't stand the people that do these things, I usually end up watching it when it comes on the news because it is interesting. And that is what the media wants. Stories that show someone doing something good is usually not as interesting, so the media hardly ever shows it.