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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Gotts Mod = to aftermarket CAI?

Well something I've been wondering is why people are spending $200+ on an aftermarket CAI when they can just do the gotts mod.

I did the gotts mod a while ago, and just today took the silencer out. I pretty much have an unrestricted flow of air in my intake now..pretty much the equivalent to an aftermarket CAI right?

Just wondering why CAI advertise a HP gain and MPG gain when you can spend 15 bucks and do the gotts mod with the same results right?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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^ Many have pondered this as well, but mine was only $80.



That being said, it probably doesn't perform as good as the Gotts mod...
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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please explain the gotts mod and how to install it.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pintye30
please explain the gotts mod and how to install it.
It's extremely complicated and a very well kept secret. If we tell you, we'll have to kill you or at least ban you from the internet truck forums.

BUT, if you just happen to use the search function and find the thread yourself, well then, we can't stop you.

All I can say is the search feature has kept me alive and obviously I'm still posting.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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LOL shotgunz. On a 2009+ litterally all we are doing is removing the silencer. It was showed by PHP in a dyno graph to make 7hp (at least on a certain tune). Either way if it makes hp to take one little plastic peice out I'm all for it lol.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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thanks chalybs
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pintye30
please explain the gotts mod and how to install it.
It's somewhere in here.....https://www.f150online.com/forums/articles-how-tos-119/
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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The answer to your question is hell no they are not equal.. Besides my issue with the intake drone, I'll take my S&B intake over the gotts mod anyday. I have both, a tune for the gotts mod and a tune for the S&B; so I speak from personal experience. If you have only ever had a gotts intake I'm sure it feels better than stock. However I have run the S&B for almost 1.5 years now on the custom tune and it gives the truck a good kick in the pants... Acceleration is noticeably better, I don't get on it as hard to pass, and it takes less pressing the pedal to get response throughout the rpm/mph range. I tried to run the gotts mod tune just last week and couldn't keep it on for even a whole day before I ripped it back off.. Basically the truck felt like a huge slug, took more getting on the gas to get the response I'm used too, acceleration had less pep, and the engine had a considerable lugging feel to it.

I will try the gotts mod on my next truck before I buy an intake, but if my brothers truck (stock truck/tune with gotts mod) is any indication I will hate it too...

My take is an intake system properly custom tuned for will win in my book everyday I was a beta tester for the S&B intake several years ago, and without the tune I'd say an intake is definitely not worth it; however with the custom tune an intake is well worth the coin, IMO...
 

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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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The answer to your question is hell no they are not equal.. Besides my issue with the intake drone, I'll take my S&B intake over the gotts mod anyday. I have both, a tune for the gotts mod and a tune for the S&B; so I speak from personal experience. If you have only ever had a gotts intake I'm sure it feels better than stock. However I have run the S&B for almost 1.5 years now on the custom tune and it gives the truck a good kick in the pants... Acceleration is noticeably better, I don't get on it as hard to pass, and it takes less pressing the pedal to get response throughout the rpm/mph range. I tried to run the gotts mod tune just last week and couldn't keep it on for even a whole day before I ripped it back off.. Basically the truck felt like a huge slug, took more getting on the gas to get the response I'm used too, acceleration had less pep, and the engine had a considerable lugging feel to it.

I will try the gotts mod on my next truck before I buy an intake, but if my brothers truck (stock truck/tune with gotts mod) is any indication I will hate it too...

My take is an intake system properly custom tuned for will win in my book everyday I was a beta tester for the S&B intake several years ago, and without the tune I'd say an intake is definitely not worth it; however with the custom tune an intake is well worth the coin, IMO...
I'm gonna disagree with you on pretty much all terms of this post. I've built close to 20 vehicles for better performance for myself, friends and family. I've bought many "CAI" in my day and I am only 23 years old. On most of vehicles I have done there are = or > gains by either modifying either mildly or extensively or building your own intake system.

The 04 plus f150's gain a lot from the tune because they are not nearly as submittable to spark knock as the 2v versions. you can add a lot more timing even running 87 octane on a 3v than you can a 2v. The gains you are feeling are from the tuning from your provider, as well as the "lugging feel" you described.

The main reason why I posted my intake modification for others to try is because of the 1) the ease of installation 2) the fact you can return it to factory specs easily 3) the obvious restriction that it frees up 4) and the cost of it all.

If you haven't noticed I really don't post much on the "Gotts mod" posts but I do typically read them.



To answer the OP's question. Ideally you want the intake temp to be as close to ambient as possible. If you want to know the ideal temp for performance is ~60*F
 
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Originally Posted by |SoCal|Screw
Well something I've been wondering is why people are spending $200+ on an aftermarket CAI when they can just do the gotts mod.

I did the gotts mod a while ago, and just today took the silencer out. I pretty much have an unrestricted flow of air in my intake now..pretty much the equivalent to an aftermarket CAI right?

Just wondering why CAI advertise a HP gain and MPG gain when you can spend 15 bucks and do the gotts mod with the same results right?


the phrase: "a fool and his/her money is soon parted" is the answer to your question
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
I'm gonna disagree with you on pretty much all terms of this post. I've built close to 20 vehicles for better performance for myself, friends and family. I've bought many "CAI" in my day and I am only 23 years old. On most of vehicles I have done there are = or > gains by either modifying either mildly or extensively or building your own intake system.

The 04 plus f150's gain a lot from the tune because they are not nearly as submittable to spark knock as the 2v versions. you can add a lot more timing even running 87 octane on a 3v than you can a 2v. The gains you are feeling are from the tuning from your provider, as well as the "lugging feel" you described.

The main reason why I posted my intake modification for others to try is because of the 1) the ease of installation 2) the fact you can return it to factory specs easily 3) the obvious restriction that it frees up 4) and the cost of it all.

If you haven't noticed I really don't post much on the "Gotts mod" posts but I do typically read them.



To answer the OP's question. Ideally you want the intake temp to be as close to ambient as possible. If you want to know the ideal temp for performance is ~60*F


Your entitled to disagree I never claimed any 'gains'. I have never bought into any mpg gain, hp gain, bla, bla on CAI's.. look at my truck, it doesn't know the meaning of 'mpg' or 'hp'... After many extensive talks with Bill and others at PHP about my own personal intake and tunes I'm well aware 'the same can be had' with the gott's, however I will 100% challenge anyone that the two do not feel the same at all.

Anyone ever in my area of Texas is welcome to drive my truck with the CAI/custom 87 perf. tune, and then we will swap to the gotts mod/custom 87 perf. tune... The difference in just the feeling, sensitivity, and responsiveness is night and day, IMO

I have tried your intake on a stock truck/stock tune, and my own personal truck with custom tuning. On the stock truck I really felt no difference, just a bit more responsiveness. I'm sure your right the tuning helps, but even with the tune and gott's mod I was not impressed with how it felt.. I'm sure with your truck and the mod's you have, coupled with the your 'gott's' intake it feels different... just like I'm sure a gott's mod on an 09-10 with a 6 speed trans feels different, and I'm sure a gott's mod on a 2011 5.0 or 6.2 will feel way different. I'd love to experience them all.

Sorry guys, but at the moment I'm loving my custom tuned intake. I'm not telling anyone to shell out for an intake, hell I haven't ever shelled out for an intake Mine was free... I have given the 'gott's mod' a shot, it just didn't work out for me. Your contribution (the gott's) is appreciated by many, and I have seen the test results that the gott's mod is an adequate intake for our trucks... I still have to stand behind my observation and opinion that they just don't give the same feeling in the settings I experienced them. Not bashing your, or the intake you invented, or people that use it... but I am letting you guys know my own experience with the OP's subject matter..
 

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