Which Exhaust system to get
Hmm.. I have a Magnaflow true dual setup with a 5.4L and I love the sound. I've never once heard it snap crackle pop like most of the exhaust clips on youtube. I have 2 14" round body mufflers, x-pipe, and 18" 3.5" tips, all on 2.5" piping. As far as performance, I can't say as to whether or not I "lost" low end torque, but it sure doesn't seem like it. My truck has excellent throttle response with the AF1 3.0", X3 tunes, and 4.56 gears, it's almost as touchy as my Honda Civic. As far as noise, the truck has a nice deep low rumble at idle, and is more than tolerable at highway speeds. I hardly push the truck over 2500 rpms driving around town, but anything above that and the truck starts to roar. I get compliments on the truck all the time and have no complaints with the Magnaflow setup. If your concerned with rust, just spray the piping with high temp spray. I sprayed mine all black and there isn't a single bit of visible rust in the past 6 months since I had it installed. Total price for all my parts and labor was right about $400, ($180 for the mufflers, x, and tips + $220 for the piping and labor).
There's an exhaust clip of my setup in my signature, it was a little windy that day, but you get the idea.
There's an exhaust clip of my setup in my signature, it was a little windy that day, but you get the idea.
Thanks! The cops around here tend to target the imports with the Fast and Furious fart can style aftermarket exhaust rather than trucks like ours but I have noticed them noticing my truck more often recently. Couple more ?'s
1. Do you think the 18" Mag will be "signifcantly quieter" than the FM 40? Not just for reasons mentioned above, I am just not into my exhaust being as loud anymore. I have heard a few sound clips of the 18" Mag and while it sounds good, some of the clips appear to be louder than what I am after, always hard to tell through speakers though.
2. The FM 40 I have is a 3"SI/2.5"DO. I have read that the factory piping is 2.5" so is there any benefit to a 3" in vs a 2.5" in? For instance, it seems as though the 3" would flow better/more but on my otherwise stock truck, may be a factor in reducing backpressure thus contributing to some low end torque loss. So would going with a 2.5" in on whatever Mag I get somewhat reduce that effect?
1. Do you think the 18" Mag will be "signifcantly quieter" than the FM 40? Not just for reasons mentioned above, I am just not into my exhaust being as loud anymore. I have heard a few sound clips of the 18" Mag and while it sounds good, some of the clips appear to be louder than what I am after, always hard to tell through speakers though.
2. The FM 40 I have is a 3"SI/2.5"DO. I have read that the factory piping is 2.5" so is there any benefit to a 3" in vs a 2.5" in? For instance, it seems as though the 3" would flow better/more but on my otherwise stock truck, may be a factor in reducing backpressure thus contributing to some low end torque loss. So would going with a 2.5" in on whatever Mag I get somewhat reduce that effect?
When having a dual outlet muffler, its always best to have a thicker intermediate pipe to equalize the velocity and scavenging more. 3" from the Y pipe into a 3" muffler will be very free flowing, while exiting through dual 2.5" outlets will flow it out equally with enough force from the 3" pipe. You should not experience any loss at all with any 3" single in 2.5" dual out set up. The scavenging is all correct and it all agrees with it. If you got a 2.5" single in 2.5" dual out you might not have the tone you expect, there wouldn't be enough pressure from the midpipe to push the exhaust note/gases through the same sized tailpipes fast enough.
Here is a video of an 18" Magnaflow. http://media.putfile.com/18-magnaflo...-on-46-04-f150
Mine never snaps, if it does I never heard it, but it will crackle slightly when reved just right, or downshifted, and it will pop when also downshifted, of overdrive de-activated. Going down a hill is awesome, you can definitely tell its a dual muffler system, sounds incredible, and its actually starting to drone on me a bit like my old Super 44s did..
Last edited by DarrenWS6; Nov 5, 2008 at 04:56 PM.
Darren,
I realize this is getting a little too in depth for a "which muffler should I get" thread, but now I am curious!!! At a given rpm, lets assume there is a constant exhaust velocity being emitted by the engine. If that exhaust is pushed through a 3" straight pipe, it will be moving slower and have less pressure than if that same exhaust was to be pushed through a 2.5" straight pipe of equal length. I can see where the tone may change a bit due to the change in velocity. Do you think the 3"SI/2.5"DO would be louder or quieter than the 2.5"SI/2.5"DO? You had mentioned that 3" from the Y to a 3"SI would be ideal. I still have the factory 2.5" piping from the Y and all of the way back to my current 3"SI FM 40 which I would rather keep (the 2.5" pipe, not the FM) instead of paying for several feet of new 3". So is there really any benefit to my current 3"SI as it is fed 99% of the way with 2.5" pipe anyway? It was just stretched up to 3"OD to fit inside the 3"SI.
I realize this is getting a little too in depth for a "which muffler should I get" thread, but now I am curious!!! At a given rpm, lets assume there is a constant exhaust velocity being emitted by the engine. If that exhaust is pushed through a 3" straight pipe, it will be moving slower and have less pressure than if that same exhaust was to be pushed through a 2.5" straight pipe of equal length. I can see where the tone may change a bit due to the change in velocity. Do you think the 3"SI/2.5"DO would be louder or quieter than the 2.5"SI/2.5"DO? You had mentioned that 3" from the Y to a 3"SI would be ideal. I still have the factory 2.5" piping from the Y and all of the way back to my current 3"SI FM 40 which I would rather keep (the 2.5" pipe, not the FM) instead of paying for several feet of new 3". So is there really any benefit to my current 3"SI as it is fed 99% of the way with 2.5" pipe anyway? It was just stretched up to 3"OD to fit inside the 3"SI.
Darren,
I realize this is getting a little too in depth for a "which muffler should I get" thread, but now I am curious!!! At a given rpm, lets assume there is a constant exhaust velocity being emitted by the engine. If that exhaust is pushed through a 3" straight pipe, it will be moving slower and have less pressure than if that same exhaust was to be pushed through a 2.5" straight pipe of equal length. I can see where the tone may change a bit due to the change in velocity. Do you think the 3"SI/2.5"DO would be louder or quieter than the 2.5"SI/2.5"DO? You had mentioned that 3" from the Y to a 3"SI would be ideal. I still have the factory 2.5" piping from the Y and all of the way back to my current 3"SI FM 40 which I would rather keep (the 2.5" pipe, not the FM) instead of paying for several feet of new 3". So is there really any benefit to my current 3"SI as it is fed 99% of the way with 2.5" pipe anyway? It was just stretched up to 3"OD to fit inside the 3"SI.
I realize this is getting a little too in depth for a "which muffler should I get" thread, but now I am curious!!! At a given rpm, lets assume there is a constant exhaust velocity being emitted by the engine. If that exhaust is pushed through a 3" straight pipe, it will be moving slower and have less pressure than if that same exhaust was to be pushed through a 2.5" straight pipe of equal length. I can see where the tone may change a bit due to the change in velocity. Do you think the 3"SI/2.5"DO would be louder or quieter than the 2.5"SI/2.5"DO? You had mentioned that 3" from the Y to a 3"SI would be ideal. I still have the factory 2.5" piping from the Y and all of the way back to my current 3"SI FM 40 which I would rather keep (the 2.5" pipe, not the FM) instead of paying for several feet of new 3". So is there really any benefit to my current 3"SI as it is fed 99% of the way with 2.5" pipe anyway? It was just stretched up to 3"OD to fit inside the 3"SI.
Magnaflow Cat back 16614
Just completed the install about an hour ago, the system went on great it only took an hour and ten minutes. it sounds nice, deep throaty sound with only minor interior noise. slight power increase major coolness increase!!!
Congrats. Good to hear you are pleased with your choice.
FLowmaster super 40 or 44?
I have an 08 f150 4x4 .. was debating between Cherry bomb vortex or cherry bomb extreme... then i heard a lot about the flowmaster 40s and 44. I use to have an 03 f150 with just a flowmaster 40 on, and it sounded ok..but wasnt loud enough for me.. Any suggestions or info on the super 44? I want performance and mean loud deep sound. Any suggestions would help...
I have an 08 f150 4x4 .. was debating between Cherry bomb vortex or cherry bomb extreme... then i heard a lot about the flowmaster 40s and 44. I use to have an 03 f150 with just a flowmaster 40 on, and it sounded ok..but wasnt loud enough for me.. Any suggestions or info on the super 44? I want performance and mean loud deep sound. Any suggestions would help...
Anyone heard the Magnaflow SI/DO next to the Roush legal version? Which is louder, or are they both pretty close to the same?
I had a Magnaflow si/so on my '03 and really liked the sound but want to go with a si/do this time. I don't want it very loud, just a nice grumble. I like the thought of the Roush, but I'm actually worried the off-road would be too loud and a little worried the legal version might be too quiet?!?
I had a Magnaflow si/so on my '03 and really liked the sound but want to go with a si/do this time. I don't want it very loud, just a nice grumble. I like the thought of the Roush, but I'm actually worried the off-road would be too loud and a little worried the legal version might be too quiet?!?
Anyone heard the Magnaflow SI/DO next to the Roush legal version? Which is louder, or are they both pretty close to the same?
I had a Magnaflow si/so on my '03 and really liked the sound but want to go with a si/do this time. I don't want it very loud, just a nice grumble. I like the thought of the Roush, but I'm actually worried the off-road would be too loud and a little worried the legal version might be too quiet?!?
I had a Magnaflow si/so on my '03 and really liked the sound but want to go with a si/do this time. I don't want it very loud, just a nice grumble. I like the thought of the Roush, but I'm actually worried the off-road would be too loud and a little worried the legal version might be too quiet?!?

The Roush Legal and Magnaflow cat-backs sound very much alike.
Roush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuzx1VKGnZQ
Magnaflow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfPb2d9k-Wo
The Magnaflow video is close to the tip and a SI/SO but the sound of it is generally the same.



