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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Pool idea for Gotts Intake

For a long time I have been wanting to dyno the Gotts intake (seen here if you don't know what it is https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=297846 ). But the nearest dyno is 2.5 hours away and that equates to about $100 worth of fuel and $100 an hour on the dyno. I am also a full time university student. Rather than asking for money I was thinking of some sort of pool. Where for say $10 you can bet on how many RWHP the mod actually makes. $5 goes towards the pool and $5 goes towards my expenses for fuel and dyno costs. I would be dynoing it at performance plus in Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada website - http://plustest.no-ip.org/Qstore1/Qstore.cgi

I would make the pool so that it would be rwhp gained and to the nearest tenth. I would also make it kind of like the price is right bidding where the nearest bid gets the pool but has to be under. If everyone over bids then the lowest bid gets the pot. It would be to the nearest 10th of a horsepower or xx.x I would also make it a sealed bid where i keep track of the estimates but do not post them publicly. I would post your f150online name here in a thread so people can see how many people are participating. In the event that 2 or more people guessed the same amount they would split the pot. I would post my truck, the mods, mileage, maintenance history, and anything else that you or I feel may be relevant.

I am looking for feedback here, good idea or am I way out to lunch here? Would anyone be willing to participate? I am just looking to see how this stock intake modification compares to the stock and the after market ones in gains but having trouble justifying the $200+ it is going to cost
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
I am looking for feedback here, good idea or am I way out to lunch here? Would anyone be willing to participate? I am just looking to see how this stock intake modification compares to the stock and the after market ones in gains but having trouble justifying the $200+ it is going to cost
For $200 you could just buy a real, tested, intake.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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It'd definately be interesting to see if your mod is worth it or not...

Stock vs. Gotts Intake Mod

Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
For $200 you could just buy a real, tested, intake.

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I agree...

Then again, I'd like to see a tested intake, the modded stock one and stock comparison
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
For $200 you could just buy a real, tested, intake.

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I ran the "gotts intake" after selling my K&N and the truck liked it better in the Texas summer heat, I was using 24# injectors too
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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I ran the "gotts intake" after selling my K&N and the truck liked it better in the Texas summer heat, I was using 24# injectors too
That's great, but how do you know the truck "liked it better" than the K&N? Do you have dyno charts or other forms of raw data to support that? Otherwise all you're doing is...



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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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How about this....

I can talk to my buddy who has a 98 4.6 and he has a K&N one, I don't know which model he has but if I asked if I could borrow it for the weekend or something I am pretty sure he would let me.

Who would be interested in that..... Stock vs K&N vs Gotts?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Seems logical since K&N is a really big brand name intake.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
How about this....

I can talk to my buddy who has a 98 4.6 and he has a K&N one, I don't know which model he has but if I asked if I could borrow it for the weekend or something I am pretty sure he would let me.

Who would be interested in that..... Stock vs K&N vs Gotts?
depends which one he has k&n claims
the 57-13.12 @ 4100
the 77-9.38 @ 4562
be nice to see overlapping dyno runs
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
For $200 you could just buy a real, tested, intake.

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Or for less than a buck you can make your own that may be just as effective. The only part that isn't tested is the small piece of PVC, everything else is factory stock. Given the stock one is colder but just necked down (which this eliminates) it is a interesting prospect.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 02XLT4X4
Or for less than a buck you can make your own that may be just as effective. The only part that isn't tested is the small piece of PVC, everything else is factory stock. Given the stock one is colder but just necked down (which this eliminates) it is a interesting prospect.
Or... for less than a buck you make an intake that leans out your engine causing increased wear and reducing its lifespan.

On a truck that stickered at nearly $40,000, what's a couple hundred for a tested and trustworthy piece of hardware? Even if you have a low end model, you're still talking $20k. A $200 intake comes out to be less than 1% of the cost of the truck. Why be cheap?

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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
Or... for less than a buck you make an intake that leans out your engine causing increased wear and reducing its lifespan.

On a truck that stickered at nearly $40,000, what's a couple hundred for a tested and trustworthy piece of hardware? Even if you have a low end model, you're still talking $20k. A $200 intake comes out to be less than 1% of the cost of the truck. Why be cheap?

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The 3v's are a totally different animal than the 2v's. You will NOT run lean on a stock tune with a 2v. You can put an 18" intake on and you will never run lean.

Also if t would make the truck run lean that would that it flows more air than most of these "tested and trustworthy" intake. That would put it on par with the 3.5" AF1 that many hold dearly to their hearts on here.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
Or... for less than a buck you make an intake that leans out your engine causing increased wear and reducing its lifespan.

On a truck that stickered at nearly $40,000, what's a couple hundred for a tested and trustworthy piece of hardware? Even if you have a low end model, you're still talking $20k. A $200 intake comes out to be less than 1% of the cost of the truck. Why be cheap?

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Why throw money away if you don't have to? The 97-03 style trucks (what I have) can take it without a problem, so why spend $200 on something that does pretty much the same thing as what I can make for a couple bucks.

This thing is a freekin cool idea, I think I am going to try it this weekend.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
The 3v's are a totally different animal than the 2v's. You will NOT run lean on a stock tune with a 2v. You can put an 18" intake on and you will never run lean.

Also if it would make the truck run lean that would mean that it flows more air than most of these "tested and trustworthy" intakes. That would put it on par with the 3.5" AF1 that many hold dearly to their hearts on here.
I've tried to flesh out your response into something understandable, please let me know if I've gotten it wrong... (my additions in bold)

Be sure it's very obvious that 'your' intake should only be used on 2v's, I've seen some 2004+ guys talking about using it.

Just flowing more air does NOT put you on par with intakes like the 3.5" AF1. I'm surprised you don't realize, or maybe just acknowledge that the 3.5" AF1 requires specialized tuning to run safely. If you want an AF1 that you can just slap on and roll, you need the 3.0". There's a reason many of us like the AF1, probably because it provides dyno proven gains. Maybe you should try testing against that...

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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
I've tried to flesh out your response into something understandable, please let me know if I've gotten it wrong... (my additions in bold)

Be sure it's very obvious that 'your' intake should only be used on 2v's, I've seen some 2004+ guys talking about using it.

Just flowing more air does NOT put you on par with intakes like the 3.5" AF1. I'm surprised you don't realize, or maybe just acknowledge that the 3.5" AF1 requires specialized tuning to run safely. If you want an AF1 that you can just slap on and roll, you need the 3.0". There's a reason many of us like the AF1, probably because it provides dyno proven gains. Maybe you should try testing against that...

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yeah i kind of compared apples to oranges there (2v's to 3v intakes)

The article is labeled for the 97-03. If people want to modify their 3v's with a similar type of intake mod that is their choice. The K&N has been shown to lean out under WOT on 3v's as well but they still sell them and people continue to run them on their trucks.

I would be willing to test it against any intake that I could get my hands on. Ideally that is what I would like to test against but I don't think there is anyone in my area code that has one let alone let me borrow it for a weekend.
 
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