Ok i picked up a AF1 its model number 16418 for the new body style 2004 with the 5.4. Is this intake the 3" or the 3.5". Here is the link to it http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...atalogno=16418 I measured the tube and its about 3 3/8 dia. Is this puppy going to make me run lean? I'm hoping its the 3" and not the 3.5 as i don't want to get a custom tune just yet.

Also if its the right one do i have to return my truck to stock with my Edge before i disconnect my battery to reset the computer after cleaning the MAF?

Thanks.

 

Looks like you have the 3.5" Kit look here

http://www.airforceoneperformance.co...ts/f150-04.php


Maybe Santa :santa: will be good to you and get you a X Cal 2 for X Mas

 

Yea i seen that! But i dont see any other AF1 on Troyers site for my model year.

 

Look Here

http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...atalogno=16419

 

This is something I've been wondering about too. My engine is still bone stock, but do I have to disconnect the battery after I clean the stock MAF?

 

That says its for the 4.6 V8. Maybe its for the 5.4 also? If anybody out there can clear this up that would be great.
Yes! By disconnecting the battery you reset the computer and it can recalculate the air flow . You dont have to disconnect the battery after you clean the MAF sensor but by cleaning it you give the computer a clean slate so to speak with its calculations.

 

Ok this is what im thinking! If i install a sleeve/ orafus with a 3" bore into the 3.5' tube would this then act like a 3" AF1 intake tube and allow me to run it without running lean? I guess it would restrict the amount of air being drawn in and so i would not get a lean condition.
And then when i get my Troyer tunes someday down the road i could get them based on the 3.5 intake and remove the sleeve/orafus. Hope i made it clear what im trying to do. Anybody out there with knowledge on this could you please respond.

Thanks.

 

Not a good idea.

Better approach - TP will swap the tube with a larger one for a nominal sum, if/when you decide on tuning and want to upgrade the intake. It's modular that way ...

 

I think you missunderstood what i was saying MGDan. My problem is the AF1 i have is the 3.5 and i wanted the 3". I Did not realize that the model i bought was the 3.5! Now as im sure you no you need a custom tune to run the 3.5. I was just thinking of inserting a sleeve to reduce the tube intake down to the 3" size and so i dont have to run a custom tune. So basicly I would turn a 3.5 into a 3" buy inserting the sleeve.
I bought the AF1 used and it is in new condition. But because its a 3.5 it will make my truck run lean.

Thanks.

 

Ahhhhh. crap - got it. Sorry I got it backwards - still not firin' on all cylinders lol

Still a bad idea - as the tube design is critical - the whole tube. You would be upsetting the design flow characteristics and you would not be certain you preserved those properties which allow it to run sans tune.

So, either ask for a tube swap (that should be free, depending where you bought it), or just bite the bullet and get a tune lol. If you explain what happened in a reasonable manner, a swap should be possible.

Good luck - and again, please forgive the confusion.

 

I was told by Troyer that model # 16418 is not the 3.5" intake that is model # 16418-something something ( i don't remember the last numbers). If you look in your tube on the maf sensor end there is an area that only measures 3" and is about 7" long. They told me the 3.5" model measures the same ID all the way which is about 3-3/8" or so. So according to them that mod # will not lean out your engine and is safe so use without a tune. hope this helps

 

Great - in that case, OP, you can disregard everything I just said

 

Holy crap if thats true im golden bro. I did see the area where the MAF sensor is located and it does narrow down inside! But it is only maybe 2 - 3" long and not 7". Im going to take another look and maybe call Troyers tomorrow if i can get my butt out of bed early enough as im working nights right now. Is Troyer on east coast time?
OK justjoecrabb ya got me all excited again about this intake.
My buddy SKRWZ picked it up and went out of his way for me as he knew I was pumped to get it. So keep your fingers crossed dudes!!

 

Troyer is on east coast time

 

Update!

OK. I had a good look at it and yes it does have a 7" section of tube pressed inside the 3.5" tube as justjoecrabb had stated. It also narrows down to a little under 3" for approx 3.5 - 4" of the 7" section right where the MAF sensor goes also as justjoecrabb stated. This is looking promising!! I think i have the right one here guys!! All the stars are starting to align.
Will call Troyer in the morning to confirm it.
Nice one justjoecrabb!!

Thanks all.