need help deciding on brand??
devil:
i need some help choosing the right exhaust.ive got a 96f150xlt 5.l v8 4x4 .im looking for a dual exhaust with exits in front of rear wheels//i was looking into flowmaster delta flow 40 or 50 series but im thinking about borla..i want a tough sound but not obnoxious..the descriptions from flowmaster website sound good but i really dont know help!!!
i need some help choosing the right exhaust.ive got a 96f150xlt 5.l v8 4x4 .im looking for a dual exhaust with exits in front of rear wheels//i was looking into flowmaster delta flow 40 or 50 series but im thinking about borla..i want a tough sound but not obnoxious..the descriptions from flowmaster website sound good but i really dont know help!!!
FLOWMASTER!!!!!!!!!! I say go with the 50 series delta flow. I have it on my v-6 and it sounds great. Noticable power gains, really is noticable with an intake like an K&N gemeration 2 system. You can tell its an aftermarket exhaust at idle, and definately at WOT and acceleration. if you tow at ALL get this one because it isnt as loud inside as it is outside. overall it sounds great. I had the 40 series but even on the v6 towing it was 2 loud so i changed to the 50 series delta flow and like it better than the 40 series. I mean im a 16 year old who loves exhausts and Im VERY pleased with the 50 series sound, enough sound when you want it but quiet on the freeway. Some guys say MAGNAFLOW but i never liked their designes and havent tried them, but I do know the flowmaster is great!
Then if you want a nice yet "TOUGH" sound go with the Borla you will not be dissapointed. Flowmaster use a baffle chamber and tend to resonate at cruising speed. Borla has a very lazy s straight thru flow design and does not resonate at any speed I had a Borla on my 88 F150 w 5.8 and it sounded great in fact still does to this day. Go to www.borla.com and read what they have to say about exhaist it is very informative. Flowmaster is old technology and they get by becasue they were one of the original performance exhuast companies. I personally can't stand the sound Flowmaster makes but as you can see there are many who do I find it to be very obnoxious and not a good Healthly type of rumble.
Richard D.
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Richard D.
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The Flowmaster DELTA FLOW doesnt have that annoying sound on the freeway because it has the delta flow technology. If you want to spend a ton of money for the same performance yes get the borla, but if you want a good exhaust well worth the money get a flowmaster....
sd150 don't take this the wrong way but maybe the reason your truck may not have that annoying drone is due to the fact that you have a V-6 and not the V-8. Rest assured the trucks that have the V-8's do get that drone. I have experianced it first hand. Flowmaster gets by mainly on name recognition from back in the 70's when I was dealing with hot rodding back then you only had a few choice as far as mufflers were concerned and flowmaster was the best back then, with todays newer vehicles and the aftermarket growing by leaps and bounds as it has there are many products that are available that outperform Flowmaster. Flowmaster is relatively inexpensive and that is what most muffler shops carry becasue they are inexpensive. Now in saying this if you like Flowmaster than more power to you that is great I simply feel that even if you are spending more money for a Borla or Magnaflow the benefits far outway the cost. And you can get just a Borla or Magnaflow muffler and have them welded on just like you would with flowmaster. It is however sometimes easier and more benificial to get the Cat-Back systems as they are specifically designed for each application Tested and tested for max performance whereas the Flowmast mufflers are very universal fit type of thing.
Richard D.
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Last edited by Richard D; Apr 9, 2003 at 04:43 PM.
I agree with the performance aspect of Richard's statments. I am thinking of switching either to Magnaflow or (if slightly more rich at the moment) Borla. I like the idea of less piping and greater torque at lower rpm's, something that Flowmaster robs. The sound on my Delta 50 series isn't that bad, though. I have not noticed any drone at highway speeds and haven't lost any real noticable power. The decision to change came when I decided that my truck was my hobby and I wanted to get the best quality parts that get the best gains. A Flowmaster system w/ custom bent piping in California costs between $300. and $450. depending on the place. It's not cheap, but you could get a stainless steel system like the Magnaflow for about the same price (with less gas restriction).
Richard-thanks for pointing that out, i didnt reconize he had a v-8! my bad, I do love my flowmaster though, i thought he had a v-6, i have had a couple of e-mail with q's about the 50 series on the v-6 and i just got all of the things mixed up.
MF150-No offense but if you paid 300-450 for a cat back system with a flowmaster or was looking at them at the price thats a rip!!!!! Here in san diego there is a place down in la mesa area called ed hansens, whole cat back system the way i wanted it installed for 220. But since mine was an 02 that was build with the 03's and has an 03 interior (no joke, I have an 03 guide, my door thing says 03, the stickers on my rear seatbelts say 03, but the sticker at the dealer said 02 but i did get the 3g rebate that was on all new trucks but the 03!) with 2.5' pipes they just reworked them so i would have a 45deg exit and it was 150 out the door with the muffler and chrome tip and everything done. there was no sence in me paying 70 more $$ for exact same pipes. ORW wanted 350!! Ed hansens does great work, my uncle gets a new truck every 2 years and the first thing he does it get an exhaust installed there. they are great people.
Garrett
MF150-No offense but if you paid 300-450 for a cat back system with a flowmaster or was looking at them at the price thats a rip!!!!! Here in san diego there is a place down in la mesa area called ed hansens, whole cat back system the way i wanted it installed for 220. But since mine was an 02 that was build with the 03's and has an 03 interior (no joke, I have an 03 guide, my door thing says 03, the stickers on my rear seatbelts say 03, but the sticker at the dealer said 02 but i did get the 3g rebate that was on all new trucks but the 03!) with 2.5' pipes they just reworked them so i would have a 45deg exit and it was 150 out the door with the muffler and chrome tip and everything done. there was no sence in me paying 70 more $$ for exact same pipes. ORW wanted 350!! Ed hansens does great work, my uncle gets a new truck every 2 years and the first thing he does it get an exhaust installed there. they are great people.
Garrett
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sdf150guy--
I live in the bay area where everything is a "rip," especially gas!
I've been paying $2.49 per gallon for the past three months...tell me something I don't know!
Price around the Bay Area. The going rate for a custom bent Flowmaster system is $350 at most "cheap" places. Some even charge $450. If I went down to San Diego, it would cost even more than what I paid. Regardless, after I buy the BBK throttle body, I will be replacing my cat back with a Magnaflow system.
Right on!!!
I live in the bay area where everything is a "rip," especially gas!
I've been paying $2.49 per gallon for the past three months...tell me something I don't know!
Price around the Bay Area. The going rate for a custom bent Flowmaster system is $350 at most "cheap" places. Some even charge $450. If I went down to San Diego, it would cost even more than what I paid. Regardless, after I buy the BBK throttle body, I will be replacing my cat back with a Magnaflow system.
Right on!!!
Last edited by mf150; Apr 14, 2003 at 11:51 PM.
Flowmasters all the way. I agree with the 50 series delta flows because their loud, but not really loud, but you might want to go with the 40-series if you want a little more ummph. Also go with 3" pipes and concelled turndowns for a cool look and more power.
Last edited by FORDVEE; Apr 20, 2003 at 12:03 AM.
Bigger is not alway better when it come to an exhuast system
Choosing The Right Performance Exhaust
Today, choosing performance exhaust can be confusing. A common misconception is that "bigger is better". Many enthusiasts, and manufacturers too, seem to feel that very large diameter pipes are the only way to go for muscle car performance, while we at BORLA have found for street use, big pipes just take energy out of the exhaust, both by slowing down exhaust gas velocity and by cooling off the gases. While exhaust may leave the port at 1500 degrees or more, at the tailpipe it’s down to 150 degrees -- a sign energy has been lost. Velocity and uninterrupted flow are the real performance-making factors.
Furthermore, it is the low frequency range that has energy (the sound you can feel inside the car); big pipes increase the low frequencies, making an uncomfortable roaring or droning sound. A BORLA exhaust system, on the other hand, is designed for less restriction, keeping the velocity and frequency high so the main sound is behind the tailpipe.
Late model cars and trucks are computer controlled to such an extent that it may take a period of time (600-800 miles) before the computer reprograms to reflect the improved flow characteristics of your new BORLA exhaust system.
Richard D.
Choosing The Right Performance Exhaust
Today, choosing performance exhaust can be confusing. A common misconception is that "bigger is better". Many enthusiasts, and manufacturers too, seem to feel that very large diameter pipes are the only way to go for muscle car performance, while we at BORLA have found for street use, big pipes just take energy out of the exhaust, both by slowing down exhaust gas velocity and by cooling off the gases. While exhaust may leave the port at 1500 degrees or more, at the tailpipe it’s down to 150 degrees -- a sign energy has been lost. Velocity and uninterrupted flow are the real performance-making factors.
Furthermore, it is the low frequency range that has energy (the sound you can feel inside the car); big pipes increase the low frequencies, making an uncomfortable roaring or droning sound. A BORLA exhaust system, on the other hand, is designed for less restriction, keeping the velocity and frequency high so the main sound is behind the tailpipe.
Late model cars and trucks are computer controlled to such an extent that it may take a period of time (600-800 miles) before the computer reprograms to reflect the improved flow characteristics of your new BORLA exhaust system.
Richard D.


