2005 Ford EXCURSION EDDIE BAUER
U45/405A 4WD Sport Utility 5D


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Price With Destination Charge and Required Equipment 39,509.00
44,985.00

Still Readily affordable for the Average Soccer mom or the working man who needs a mean Super Duty based SUV. What'll do yaw'll think?

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GENERAL INFO
Country of Assembly United States
Country of Origin United States
EPA Class Full Size Sport Utility
Body Style Sport Utility
Doors 4
Seating Capacity 8,5
POWERTRAIN
Engine Code / Name 99S/Triton
VIN S
Cylinders V10
Displacement 6.8
Bore x Stroke 3.55 x 4.17
Compression Ratio 9.0
Fuel Type G
Fuel Induction SFI
Valve Train SOHC
Valves Per Cylinder 2
Total Number Valves 20
Horsepower 310 @ 4250 RPM
Torque 425 @ 3250 RPM
Max Eng. Speed -
Transmission Automatic
Drivetrain 4 Wheel Drive
EPA City -
EPA Hwy -
SAFETY
Airbag Driver
Passenger
Child Door Locks Standard
Child Seat Anchors Standard
Integrated Child Seat Not Available
Alarm System Not Available
Engine Immobilizer Not Available
CRASH TEST
Driver Front No Data
Passenger Front No Data
Front Side No Data
Rear Side No Data
Rollover Rating No Data
DIMENSIONS
Head Room: Front 41.0 inches
Head Room: Rear 38.6 inches
Leg Room: Front 42.3 inches
Leg Room: Rear 39.0 inches
Shoulder Rm: Front 68.3 inches
Shoulder Rm: Rear 64.9 inches
EPA Passenger -
EPA Trunk or Cargo 146.4 cu.ft.
EPA Total Interior -
WARRANTY
Basic 3 years or
36000 miles
Powertrain 3 years or
36000 miles
Corrosion/Rust Thru 5 years or
Unlimited miles
FEATURES
2W Anti-Lock Brakes Not Available
4W Anti-Lock Brakes Standard
Front Air Conditioning Not Available
Front & Rear Air Conditioning Standard
Cruise Control Standard
AM/FM Radio Standard
Cassette Standard
Compact Disc Standard
CD Changer Optional
Premium Radio Not Available
DVD Entertainment System Optional
Cup Holder Standard
Leather Standard
Navigation System Not Available
Privacy Glass Standard
Hands Free Phone Not Available
Power Locks Standard
Power Outlets Standard
Power Mirrors Standard
Remote Mirrors Not Available
Power Seat Not Available
Dual Power Seats Standard
Folding Rear Seat Standard
Moon Roof Not Available
Sun Roof Not Available
Remote Keyless Entry Standard
Luggage Rack Standard
Rear Window Defroster Standard
Tilt Wheel Standard
Tachometer Standard
Traction Control Not Available
Power Windows Standard
Upgraded Wheels Not Available
Power Steering Standard
SPECIFICATIONS
Wheel Base 137.1 inches
Overall Length 226.7 inches
Width 79.9 inches
Height 80.2 inches
Curb Weight -
Tires / Wheel Size LT265/75R16
Rear Tires / Wheel Size -
Spare Tire Full
Wheel Type Aluminum
Turning Radius 50.4
Brakes: Front ABS
Disc
Brakes: Rear
Fuel Capacity 44.0
Axle Ratio 3.73
4.30
Ground Clearance 8.1
GVWR 8900
Maximum Towing 11000
Transfer Case Electronic Shift-on-the-Fly
Payload Base Capacity 1800

 

The one I looked at was just a hair over $54K MSRP, or for a grand less you can get the Harley Davidson SD.

 

Pricing....

This is what's really killing the Excursion. That, and it's not "appealing" to women.

 

and knowing that Ford has publicaly stated that they continue to make it because they make a profit of over $10,000 per truck sold...

 

Oh, so Ford's plan to kill the Excursion after 2004/2005 has been shelved?
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I think they make $10,000 even with the deep discounts....

The Expedition was netting Ford $10,000 per vehicle sold and the Navigator $15,000 back in 1998- when the Expedition was $31,000 for an Eddie Bauer and $36,000 for a Navigator.

Now, if you just pay the sticker- a Navigator can hurt you for over $60,000 and a well-appointed Expy will lighten your wallet for $45,000 +.

So, the Excursion- is probably in the same boat- regarding cost to build -vs- profit. Were it based upon the F-150 to begin with, I think Ford would have sold far more than they did basing it off the F-250.

Women make the difference. I bet if you count the next 10 Expeditions you see, 8 of them will have women behind the wheel. If you can find 10 Excursions, I'll bet 9 of them will be driven by men.

 

that would defeat the purpose of theExcursion... biggest SUV out there with V10 and PSD available.

Even a stretched Expedition with a 4.5 diesel wouldn't be the same.

 

I'm willing to bet that with a few mods they can shoe-horn the 6.0L diesel into the Expedition.

If Chevy can cram a 6.0 into a Corvette, Ford can cram a 6.0 into an Expedition.

If Dodge can cram an 8.4L V-10 into a Viper (And RAM), Ford can cram that V-10 into the Expedition.

Will they? I doubt it.... Recently, Ford has appeared content with 2nd place- as long as the F-150 & Explorer keep winning.....

 

but is there room left over to cram in the Torqshift tranny? You would need it ot handle the torque of the PSD. And then the remaining drivetrain would need to be upgraded to handle the added torque.

 

It's not that easy. Why hasn't Chevy shut down Ford SUV sales with a Suburban with a DMax?

A diesle engine is not only bigger, but a whole lot heavier. And as mentioned, it needs a tranny to go along with it.

 

FamilyRide,

Glad to see your stilll around. I havent been here in A LONG time, but miss my expedition. Glad to see your having fun w/ the Excursion! Take care!

 

this one I don't understand. Before the Duramax and the current redesign, a diesel option was available on the 3/4 ton Suburbans (I think it was the 6.5 GM diesel)

 

Good to see you around too Alan!! What did you do with your Expy?


J-150,

That's the point The Dmax/Alli won't fit so they haven't done it yet. YET.

I've seen a spy pic (bad one) of the stretched Expy (2007 MY) and the rumor is still alive that it'll come with a V6 Diesel.

 

That's what I was wondering....

The Suburban had a diesel option and a 454 V-8 option as well.
And, the Suburban does out-sell the Excursion.

Ironically, the Tahoe now out-sells the Expedition (2-3 years in a row now).

Chevy will never "shut-down' Ford SUV sales because Ford has a loyal group of owners as well.

Months ago Ford announced plans to kill the Excursion and the Mercury Marauder. I'm sure the Merc is dead- has the Excursion been given a new lease of life?

 

Sold it about 5 months ago, got tired of eating depreciation on it and with it about to turn 5 years old when the 05's came out, I knew it would take a big hit about that time. Long story short, I'm gettin a dodge MAGNUM!!!!!! Pretty excited about that, should be a fun vehicle. I'll be back around and checking out these boards on occasion, I will always have a nack for Ford trucks (damn those new SD's are incredible trucks!!) Talk to you later.

 

I can see where the Expy can't fit the PStroke, as the F150 and Superduty have different engione bays.

The half-ton Chev is the same as the 3/4 ton isn't it? If the 3/4 ton can fit the DMax and the 1500 has the same cab-forward, why wouldnt it fit?

What am I missing? Or are they that different and just look the same?