I got a printout of the history for my truck from a buddy at ford today. It says that my truck came with the day time running lights. I was thinking of adding them (the navajos here can't drive) and thought that if they were in the truck's history they should have been included. Has anybody else found the same thing? Is there a designation on the factory sticker for the DTRL? Mine doens't have anything about them.

I also found out it was built on a wednesday

Mitch

 

DTRL only came on Canadian residents trucks only, I wish the put them on all trucks.

 

Daytime running lights DO NOT signifigantly help large vehicles to be seen. It's been mandated for motorcycles for years and people pull in front of me daily.

On the other hand, especially in twilight situations, they can make a motorcycle blend right in with the DTRL vehicles in the background. It gets plenty of motorcyclists killed every year.


Please don't do it! Us two wheeled riders need all the help we can get out there.

 

Hi Bronco

Interesting point you brought up.

My 99SC does have DTRL. Built ll/98 in Canada'. Was bought in Calif. not canada. I dont recall if they were standard or optional.

So, does anyone else have DTRL on their trucks, year????


HMtwin....Where did you get your info from?

Rode a bike for many, many years and understand some of what you said. However, DTRL causing deaths & do not help, i disagree with that. unless you can direct me to documented evidence of that.

Last i heard, DTRL on USA vehicles with soon be mandatory, just mfg. decided to put them on some vehicles sooner. Unless thats been changed?

Another one of those pro/con things !

Good luck. OT

 

Poor driving is what gets motorcyclists killed, not day time running lights

 

Well, regardless of biker concerns, I think they're a good thing to have. I agree that poor driving is what gets bikers hurt, both on the part of automobile drivers and bikers thamselves. I'm not trying to start a war here, just pointing out that both parties are at fault.

My question is: since it's listed on the factory history for the truck, is it already there, but just shut off? Or are the parts not there? Can I make the dealership install them for free?, or will I have to buy the modules for $60 to make them work?

Thanks,

Mitch

 

There's enough stupid drivers on the road already. People who knowingly add to the problem are just as bad. "Doesn't matter if the DRLs contribute to the problem, poor drivers should know that I'm contributing and correct for it." You're just making it easier for the dip****s to run people over.

The tree is what killed him, not me running him off the road.

He died by blunt force trauma, not by me pushing him off the building.

He died in the wreck, not by me confusing the 80 year old who hit him.

You obviously don't give a **** about the other humans around you. Keep up the work. What comes around goes around eventually.

 

www.lightsout.org

 

DTRL's in my opinion we don't need them I think only Motorcycles and emergency vehicles should have them. I like to have the freedom to turn on my lights when I feel the need for them not the Goverment telling me I need to have the lights on when ever I'm driving. Plus DTRL's take away the cool factor as you can't cruise around with your park lights on at dawn and dusk when there is enough light to see with out head lights but just dark enough to make the park lights stand out.

 

Hey Bronco

You posted a pretty simply, straight forward question and look whats happened.......Seen it happen here before....

Getting alittle off topic, but hang in there for answer I dont have.

HMTwin...tks. for link. Interesting reading.

Maybe another new thread to come..."Pros. & Cons. on DTRL"
Could be very interesting?

Thats what really IMO keeps this site interesting, new stuff all the time even if you didnt ask for it.

Good luck. OT

 

Poor driving on the part of the motorist is what gets the motorcyclist killed. According to the Hurt report (let me know if you want a link), in more than 75 percent of the accidents surveyed involving a motorcycle and an automobile, the automobile driver violated the right of way of the motorcyclist. Most often, this was caused by turning left in front of a motorcyclist who had the right of way. This is followed by pulling out into traffic from a side street or driveway, followed by making a lane change without looking.

In almost all cases, the general response of the automobile driver was "I didn't see him". And, I believe that. I've ridden for more than 25 years without and accident... some very close calls but no accident. I attribute that to being a very good defensive driver, AND having a ton of lights on my bike... headlights, spotlights, running lights. Even then, I've had people pull out in front of me. Panic stop and clean out the shorts.

I think that about 80 percent of drivers who violate right of way do so out of a simple mistake. But, I've also seen plenty that clearly see you coming, say "f*ck you" and pull out anyway. I wonder which group you fall into?

 

beastrider and hmt, you both need to get a clue. IT IS bad drivers that kill other drivers. i did not say that it is the cyclist's fault. and it is not just motorcyclists who are killed or injured on the roads. if people would be paying attention then there would be so fewer accidents. DTRL on cars/trucks or the lack there of do not make drivers pay more/less attention to motorcycles. if somebody wants to get DTRL for their car/truck because they want to feel safer then fine, i don't think motorcyclists should get pissed off about it when they do the same.

rider-just because some people cause accidents that motorcycles are involved in doesn't meen everybody does. i have never caused an accident, never even close. i do respect bikes on the road. what i don't respect are ignorant people like you, blaming everything on other people.

hmt-it was the tree that killed him, not me running him off the road. you need to grow up. DTRL don't kill people. if a driver is talking on a cell phone and causes an accident, is the phone at fault? did it jump out the window and kill somebody? NO! it is the stupid driver for talking on the phone and not paying attention, which is exactly what my statement said, poor driving is what gets people killed.


BTW hmt- your dumb little analogies only prove my point, that it is the PERSON causing the accident, not the tree, blunt force trauma, or DTRL.

and for you beastrider- the most common response was "i didn't see him," not "well that new f-150 up the road had day time running lights on"

 

Everyone, especially BroncoAZ - I'm sorry to have created such a diversion from your original question. I can't give you an answer, but I hope you get it, even though I also hope you decide against adding them.



HOSRACN - I need to grow up?

I merely presented facts and amusing analogies. DRLs do contribute to stupid people doing stupid things. Sometimes they aren't even stupid people, but people who are easily confused and probably shouldn't be driving, like the half blind and some elderly people. Simple fact. I don't like them because of that. Whether or not you choose to put them on you truck is your right, I just was expressing the opinion that I'd rather not see them anywhere. Maybe it was a point the author of this message had never thought of. Maybe he or someone else reading this forum has a high school or college kid who rides a bike and never thought about them getting smashed becuase of the confusion that can happen with DRLs in certain circumstances. Again, just a simple fact.

Now if your thinking process could mature just a little you'd see that point, and either care or not, but the point is there.



Now it's your turn to cry at me some more, although it would be nice to BroncoAZ if you just sent me an email or dropped it altogether. Either way you won't get a response from me as I've made my point and started enough trouble here.

 

Just goes to show that using logic with the illogical is pointless and that you can't reason with the unreasonable. Do I sense a testosterone overload here?

 

HMTwin, you may have a valid point, and I'm willing to listen. Can point me in the direction of a government study, or even something from a biker's group discussing that DTRL's on cars cause more injuries to bikers on the road? I'm not challenging your perspective, and if the info is there I'll reconsider my situation. I've got several friends who ride bikes, and I live in Flagstaff, which is a mecca for harley riders because of the Route 66 factor.

The main reason I want the DTRL is because of the idiots that seem to not be able to see a large red object that is already in the lane that they want to go into. This is a especially the case on the indian reservations around here. Those people just don't seem to care, they're phucking nuts. I do think the DTRL helps the truck show up better to those blinded by the sun around sunset. I've noticed that I can see the newer cars with them much better when I'm going west at sunset (I live in an east-west town).

I was debating on using the red and white reflective tape ALL OVER the new truck, but that would look gay, so it's out. It's kind of funny, I never had this problem when I was daily driving my 87 Bronco with 35's and mean prerunner bumpers...