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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zambonimaxx
Whats wrong with Big Red-Neck Antennas??


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i park inside cause i invested 2 grand in "ICE" for the inside of my truck...got stolen 2 weeks after i moved 2 texas...i watch my truck like a hawk and park inside

anyone have an opinon on the glass antenna setup? i got one and im taking it back since i get no more than a mile rang...anyone else had problems or tried em?

man the range you must get on that thing

im gonna fab 2 fiberglass whips up to the bumper any advice on the best range/affordable one on the market...how would you ever know if your radio burnt up? one last question is high s/rf good? my srw is at 1 on the meter
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Love them but nobody else ever figured that out. I only use those or wilson 5000. The handle the most power and never go bad. But if your running any juce check your SWR if it is any more than 1.5 to 1 change or get ride of that spring. The get corrosion inside and cause major problems.

I do not recomend glass mount if you are going to do alot of transmitting. They have a false load in them and can cause problems in the long run.

Double antennas cause other problems. Low SWR but can make it directional. Their are alot of enternet sites on set up's.

K40 are nice if you are under 200 watts and they have a quick disconnect. Adjusting the SWR is easy but easy to mess up. You are better watching some one do it atleast once. Not all antennas need adjusted. The redneck antenna is a full wave and does not need touched. If alll else fails just hook it up and talk to some locals on the radio to find some one to show you. Short term use is fine as long as it is not a dead short.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Angry

Just smokes me when simeone starts a thread and finishes it on another site

 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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What do you run for a radio and amp crash??
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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from what I can see you all need to adress those ugly wires. get som loom or route that crap under the carpet.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CRASH594
Love them but nobody else ever figured that out. I only use those or wilson 5000. The handle the most power and never go bad. But if your running any juce check your SWR if it is any more than 1.5 to 1 change or get ride of that spring. The get corrosion inside and cause major problems.
They do corrode sometimes and can cause problems but MOST of the time they are needed to bring the SWR into an acceptable range.


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Double antennas cause other problems. Low SWR but can make it directional. Their are alot of enternet sites on set up's.
All antennas, if not properly mounted, will be directional. The antenna in Zambonis post will be most certianly directional to the front right corner of the truck. Thats where the ground plane is. It will talk ALOT better in that direction than it will behind him.


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Not all antennas need adjusted.
99% of the time they do.

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The redneck antenna is a full wave and does not need touched.
It is not a full wave, it is 1/4 wave antenna. They are adjusted by trimming the antenna if need be.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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Sorry I have been on vacation.
Sorry about the full wave. It is 1/4 but I have never needed to adjust a 102 inch steel whip. Usually it is the vehicle it is mounted to that causes the problem or the cable. Also tying the antenna back causes problems. I have seen many steel whips with high swr but after cleaning grounds and connections and most the time adding grounds the issue goes away. Units with coils always need adjusted. Dual unit can cause a problem if they do not stay matched and you will never know. I also do not use the swr meter in the radio other that for just a quick check. Not adjusting.

The spring if you look at it closely it has a piece of braded wire in the center to carry the signal. This corrodes quickly and the power takes the least path of resistance threw the spring this makes the antenna longer changing the SWR. I also do not set up the swr with the heater bow on. I have a 2510 with a dead key of 1 watt swinging 30 into a custom grey 300. This was factory modified with 4 2879 pills and copper power crossovers inside to keep even power across the pills. Max output with 14v is 750watts. All threw a Wilson 5000. An old ham teck helped me set up the system but I also gained his respect. I do not abuse and only use it when I am in the boon docks. Doing this I have made many friends that are hams. Since they are the regulators in most areas. Lately I have been a silent key. I do miss using my radio on the way home from work.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Im sure you are just going by what you were told but that Grey 300 wont do anywhere near 750 watts. The Toshiba 2879 transistors are rated at 100 watts per. You MIGHT be seeing 400 if you drive the snot out of it but it wont last long like that. The quarter/dime series of radios were some of the best ever built but are far from 6000 channels. Itll cover 26MHz to 29.699. If it were a channelized radio you would have approx 370 channels of which none are legal to operate on unless you are a liscensed ham. Im not rying to bust your *****, just clearing up some misconseption
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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I never said anything about legal. Look up the 2510 with chip switch which is 24.800 to 29.999 MHz AM,FM.USB and LSB. I dont know if it adds up to 6000 but their is not many mobils capible of this. This unit was only made for export and is no longer made. Ebay will not allow sales of this unit on their site. If you find one it is one of the best mobils out their to this day.

Below are spec's for a MagnaForce 600. Their are none for my unit since it was factory modified when they where still made. See what is stated for driven PEP and this can be evan higher with more voltage (tweeking the voltage from your alternator). I can not check RMS since I have the radio setup for modulation swing. That would be the radio dead keying 1W and swinging up top 30W when talking. So I can only measure peak. It will pop the pills if I maintain a carrior of 750w. All the info came from the internet. Not my mind and good luck disputing facts. By the way you can not go by texas star amps. They are made to only do the watage they are made for and require major mods to do more and when moded it causes them to have a bad bleed over to other channels. Every one around you will be on your but. I evan suplied some links to help you research. There are to many to list. I never talk without info to back me up. I work on private jets and I am very complete. I am responsible for about $50million worth of aircraft. Im not rying to bust your *****, just clearing up some misconseption.


Transistors 4 x 2SC2879
Dimensions H 4 3/4' x L 11' x W 6 3/4'
Amp Draw (maximum) 100
Class B
SSB Delay yes
Pre-amp no
Driver Required Magna Force 200 (optional)
Power Output (RMS) 300 Watts
Power Output (PEP) 625 Watts
Driven Power (RMS) 400 Watts
Driven Power (PEP) 1000 Watts
install recommended with 4ga wire
and 125a fuse. Max input carrier of
20w or 300w max carrier from amp.


http://www.1stopelectronics.com/shop...62&cart=749946


http://www.bigdawg.org/?

http://www.davemade.com/mobile.htm

http://www.chipswitch.com/Features.htm
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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I know all about the chipswitch and your radio....I have owned quite a few of them. There are alot of rigs that are made for "export only" and recieve and operate just like yours. Its not rare. Ebay has a list about a mile long of rigs that are not allowed for sale on there. Now, as for the amp....You gave my answer in your specs you posted for the Magna 600. Its an amp in a similar configuration to yours. It REQUIRES a driver to achieve its "proclaimed" 1000 watts.(which it wont do BTW) You are not running a driver so you wont be able to get over about 400 MAX with the Grey. All 2879 amps are similar Texas Star, X-Force, DaveMade....ETC You can only squeeze so much power out of a transistor. Kinda hard to get 800 HP out of a 5.4L V8 aint it?? Same principle. If you still dont get it, throw your DOSY away, go buy a bird 43 meter and you better be sitting down when you key up....You arent going to like the results. I could care less if you are the president or a garbage man, $50 million dosent make very many airplanes. Your research dosent do you any good if you dont understand what you are reading. Guess if you dont want to listen and choose to believe your misconceptions....I dont know what to tell you
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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You need to get off the farm a little more and its not worth my time. Maby with some education youu might
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Then educate me on this....You've got the time, you just dont have the answers or facts to back your claims up. Ive been working on this stuff for 20 years. I kinda know what im doing on this subject. I wasnt trying to start something with you, just trying to correct some misinformation someone fed you. This line of work is FULL of myths and lies. Manufacturers "bump" their specs up to make them look appealing to the consumer. Thruth is, on a real meter, they wont do the expected wattage.
 
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