New Battery Suggestions?
Originally Posted by Steve83
This site used to show a LOT more data than it does now, and that's where I saw it. Don't believe me? Fine. Believe the people who say "Optima is the BEST!!!
" without any supporting data. It's your truck & your money. Spend it on whatever you like.
http://www.dcbattery.com/optima2.html
" without any supporting data. It's your truck & your money. Spend it on whatever you like.http://www.dcbattery.com/optima2.html
BTW, I own six vehicles, and five of them have Optima red top batteries. The vehicle that doesn't have one is a 6 volt 1941 Chevrolet Special Deluxe Cabriolet, and if the Optima 6 volt looked as much like factory issue as the rest of the vehicle, it would be in there. I don't need to fabricate websites or information, I can testify that the 8 year old Optima in my 2000 Chevrolet K1500 Suburban still operates like a brand new battery.
So, I guess your BS is just that, Bull****. Back to the end of the line, asshat.
Last edited by OnBelay; Feb 5, 2007 at 10:39 PM.
A) I never said I had proof of anything.
B) I never said that site would provide enlightenment to you - I said it USED to contain data from Optima
C) I take no responsibility for your inability to read English or understand what it means, and CERTAINLY not for you wasting your time because of that lack of ability.
D) You're the only person spouting BS, asshat. This is not a certified research site - it's a site full of OPINIONS, moron. Get a grip on that fact, and maybe you'll find yourself wasting less time.
B) I never said that site would provide enlightenment to you - I said it USED to contain data from Optima
C) I take no responsibility for your inability to read English or understand what it means, and CERTAINLY not for you wasting your time because of that lack of ability.
D) You're the only person spouting BS, asshat. This is not a certified research site - it's a site full of OPINIONS, moron. Get a grip on that fact, and maybe you'll find yourself wasting less time.
The plate designs in various batteries determine there ability to hold a charge, their discharge rates, deep cycling and recharge rates, then throw temperature effects in, to boot.
Many of these newer offering have plate desgns that incorperate fibeglass with lead. This desgn slows the ION tranfer rates, offers various reliability advantages in some applications and changes the rate of discharge and re charge rates. Changes in electrolyes are also a factor in performance.
The standard lead acid battery has hanging vertical plates and with the normal plate designs, the lead can flake off, and drop to the bottom.
What happens over time with this happening is the battery loses capacity and accumulationon on the floor of the cell can build up to the point the cell array is shorted. With this condition the cell cannot take a charge and essentunally passes current thru resulting in a battery that can never be charges up, making the charging system over active with wear and heat plus loading the engine extra.
Trying to compair differnt designs for the same application is fine as long as one considers the differences and not use them as a basis for saying either one is no good.
I use in OPTIMA red in a sprint car with a low charge rate alternator and find the overall balance between the battery's capacity to start an engine repeatedly and the recharge it gets while running have proven to be acceptable.
The standard lead acid design is fine as it has been for years and naturally has a certain life dependant on "what house it lives in" and a little luck.
Finally, I have many years as power tech for a large company that involved me in large industrial storage batteries systems both lead acid and lead calcium, both standard vertical and round cell types in large arrays as backup power for service 24/7. Add to that large motor gen sets to back up power demands.
Lets get a bit more perspective than just attack modes, to base discussions on.
Lets not make this like attempts to talk about oil and how that subject goes.
Both these designs are fine and do the job within the same reasonable time frames (if the conditions are the nearly the same). What this means is one who lives in warm climates cannot compair overall battery life to one who lives in International Falls, Min. for starting drains, recharge rates, crank times and other factors over a long time frame.
As they say; JMO.
Many of these newer offering have plate desgns that incorperate fibeglass with lead. This desgn slows the ION tranfer rates, offers various reliability advantages in some applications and changes the rate of discharge and re charge rates. Changes in electrolyes are also a factor in performance.
The standard lead acid battery has hanging vertical plates and with the normal plate designs, the lead can flake off, and drop to the bottom.
What happens over time with this happening is the battery loses capacity and accumulationon on the floor of the cell can build up to the point the cell array is shorted. With this condition the cell cannot take a charge and essentunally passes current thru resulting in a battery that can never be charges up, making the charging system over active with wear and heat plus loading the engine extra.
Trying to compair differnt designs for the same application is fine as long as one considers the differences and not use them as a basis for saying either one is no good.
I use in OPTIMA red in a sprint car with a low charge rate alternator and find the overall balance between the battery's capacity to start an engine repeatedly and the recharge it gets while running have proven to be acceptable.
The standard lead acid design is fine as it has been for years and naturally has a certain life dependant on "what house it lives in" and a little luck.
Finally, I have many years as power tech for a large company that involved me in large industrial storage batteries systems both lead acid and lead calcium, both standard vertical and round cell types in large arrays as backup power for service 24/7. Add to that large motor gen sets to back up power demands.
Lets get a bit more perspective than just attack modes, to base discussions on.
Lets not make this like attempts to talk about oil and how that subject goes.
Both these designs are fine and do the job within the same reasonable time frames (if the conditions are the nearly the same). What this means is one who lives in warm climates cannot compair overall battery life to one who lives in International Falls, Min. for starting drains, recharge rates, crank times and other factors over a long time frame.
As they say; JMO.
I have had a yellow top Optima in my last truck and it did work well but I know that others have posted issues about them. I have the original factory Motorcraft battery in my '97 Thunderbird that still works great and holds a charge, even here in the Northeast. I have had great luck with both.


