Brad,

Do you have a real email address. The one you used, had a size limit to it, and it came back to me.

Thanks

Steve

 

Steve, I just emailed you a couple of additional email account addys...

Thanks!!

RP

 

Brad,

Can you follow the 3 ground wires from the power pedal switch connector to a splice. This should lead to more
wires off that splice. Those other wires should lead to an other empty, not pluged in, connector. If it does then that should be the slider switch connector. If it isn't there don't worry. I can help you splice the contor switch harness to the slider.

JMC

 

JMC,

I'll go check that out...

Are you saying that my truck may already be wired for this switch? That would kick major butt...

I'd still have to get power and a ground back to the motor for the power slider though.

I guess I'm leary that I have the plug because the power slider wasn't even an option on the 2001 F-150... it didn't come on board until 2002. I have a feeling that we'll have to splice...

Do you think I can splice off of the power pedals switch to avoid having to wire into the fuse block?

I'll definately check though...

RP

 

The only pro/con that I can think of if I tie into the pedals switch is that the window would 'ALWAYS' be operational because the pedals circuit is always hot.

RP

 

The 2001 Wiring Diagrams show the Power Rear slider wiring diagrams in it.

I'll pickup those other email addr, and send off the connector info to you.

The connector for the power slider shows as being the the head liner in the rear of the cab.

Take a look at the jpg files I send you, so you can see what I think JMC is pointing you towards.

 

sscully,

You read my mind. If it is all in place all thet needs to be done is plug the motor into the harness at the back of the cab and the switch into connector in front and presto. If not, get the power for the switch from the Acc delay lead, ground the 3 grounds, find the light feed from the power pedals and last run the 2 power feeds to the motor. I personally would not tap into the Power pedal for the +12v to feed the slider. Your idea of a relay is better, safer. using a relay feeding off the Acc delay would allow the slider to work like the windows when the ign is turned off. What do you think?

JMC

 

I see the power window schematic now on my CD. I didn't see it initially (it's not exactly easy to maneuver around the disc).

You all are mentioning that it might be pre-wired for the slider that I have?

I've looked at the schematics a few times and I simply don't see where... I'm going to run down to my truck and see if the pedals switch has a mate like you've mentioned JMC...

I'll report back...

Thanks guys

RP

 

I'm just not seeing an additional harness that looks like the pedals switch. It's either farther back behind the dash in the loom or it's non-existant.

The switch, on the other hand, is seemingly, identical to that of the Pedal switch (same markings/numbers/etc.)

I have an early production 2001, think that could be the problem or am I just missing it?

I removed the light switch and followed the cable as far down as I could. It seems to go into a larger loom that houses the lights wire and the pedals switch. I didn't feel another plug.

RP

 

Also, the C248 In-line looks nothing like the switch/harness that I have... I just don't think it's pre-wired.

I'm 99.9% sure that I have the right switch (per Ford) and, I was told that the part number crosses as a Contour window switch (per Ford)...

I'm getting lost now... I don't want to drop the headliner to check on if it's pre-wired... that's a beast... thoughts?

C209 and C248 don't match. One is 8 pin, the other 7.

HELLLLLLLLLLP... hehee

RP

 

JMC,

that was my inital thought earlier, was to just use a relay off the delay assy power feed for the window, until you noted the wiring harness in there.

Then I took a look at the wiring diagram and found the actual leads for the connectors.

I think I have a derail somewhere though.

C355 ( rear of cab ) is to be connected to the rear power window.
C202 on the pass is the output of the wiring harness from the rear of the cab ( routed via the pass side kick board by the fuel inertia switch ).

Motor--C355---C202--C209->switch harness connector.

C202 continues to C209, which is the switch for the rear power slider...is that the route you were following ?

The C355 should be a 2 pin connector, I would guess below the window ??? That part it does give on the CD, I need to check the paper copy, it is slightly different ( go figure ) .

My only big hold up, is that the location of C209 on the CD is center of roof panel, not down by the power pedal switch.
WTF......back to the paper copy, and the location for the connector is the same in the paper copy of the manual.

RP, does the switch have a bezzle for it as well, that might put it in the overhead console ?
Or is the harness you got with the switch long enough to make it down the A pillar ?

Maybe if you get a chance, drop the overhead console and the visors so you can fish around the wiring harness for the C209 up there. It almost looks as if this is where the switch is to be placed from the factory.
It would be taped back against the loom, if it is not used so it should not just be rattling around up there.

Let us know what happens next.

There is no pin out for the C355 connector, but it is only 2 leads, one for the open motion, one for the close motion.

 

C355 would have to be a 2-pin connector as there are two wires coming off of the motor with a plug-355F.

Why in the world would they put 209F in the headliner? That makes no sense to me...

Scully, JMC... thank you guys. I really appreciate it. I definately owe you both a frosty beverage (or 6) of your choice.

RP

 

The switch looks just like this (which is a factory set up)



The harness that I have was simply snipped from the Contour and hence, no, definately not long enough to make it from the overhead, down the pillar, over to the pedals switch location.

I'm going to go out and poke around to see what I can find with this #209. It's ashme that they didn't go ahead and bring it down there with the pedals switch. Heck, for that case, I don't know that 355M is back there either but, I suspect if I find 209, 355M would be rightfully in it's place (god and Ford willing).

RP

 

RP,

When you put the new bezel in, you did not see C209 in there, taped backwards against the loom ?

If not, it might be a case of Ford was going to put it in the overhead console, but changed their mind about it, and in 2002 started putting the C209 connector down by the headlight.

If someone else with a 2002 wiring diagram can find these connecots, that would tell you if you should take apart the overhead console looking for it. If 2002 has C209 byt the power pedals, then you are screwed, unless you are going to buy empty connector ends at AutoZone and build the loom down the A pillar that is

Good luck with the trolling, if not go back to square A, take the delay off assy power from C248 ( circuit 400 ) and power a relay for running the window power in, using the switch diagram you have, and run the wire the long way around above the windows or below the door sill.

Steve

 

Brad,

Where is your moon roof switch? Over head or by the pedals?

JMC